Guest rivercityrocker Posted May 12, 2013 Share #21 Posted May 12, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) So you're not going to disclose? My use of the M8.2 leads to a very different conclusion. YMMV. Jeff I figured from your comment you obviously knew I didn't use an M8.2. Yes, I used an M8. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bruniroquai Posted May 12, 2013 Share #22 Posted May 12, 2013 I am the king of GAS attack.. 13 Leica M9 i have owned in 2 years, 6 Leica M8, 4 Leica M7, 5 Leica M6, a lot of M2.. This week I purchased a Monochrom and.. Sold in two days. After speak with my woman, decided to sell everything (if anyone wants the 50 asph...) And keep my M6 and a 35 Cron and 50 summarit 1.5n that's all. In september with the money, we will be travelling around Asia or Caribe, have to decide Seriously, keep one camera, one or two lenses and enjoy photograph not gear. We are concern just for the ISO, Viewfinders, speed... The real and only point is PHOTOGRAPHY, leave behind the GAS and buy some books, a good scanner or a good digital one. Enjoy. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share #23 Posted May 12, 2013 After speak with my woman, decided to sell everything (if anyone wants the 50 asph...) And keep my M6 and a 35 Cron and 50 summarit 1.5n that's all. I hope that my case did not trigger your decision:eek: In the near future we might have a thread about "minimalisation of Leica M Gear":o Enjoy your holiday in September! Good luck, and keep to your promises John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 12, 2013 Share #24 Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) I figured from your comment you obviously knew I didn't use an M8.2. Yes, I used an M8. But you still didn't say if your M8 has upgraded (2m) frame lines. That was the whole point of my comment, which was not meant to be caustic in any way (even though your responses appear to be so). I just would be surprised, based on your comment of the 40 versus 35 lens, if you had the upgraded lines. If not, you might consider an upgrade to your M8 (if still available), if framing accuracy at moderate distances is important to you. I've used many Ms over several decades, and the 2m lines are the best I've used, based on my needs and preferences. I'm glad the new M has them. YMMV. Jeff Edited May 12, 2013 by Jeff S Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 12, 2013 Share #25 Posted May 12, 2013 For 40mm lenses, the 35mm framelines of film Ms, M8 and R-D1 are significantly more accurate at long to medium distance than those of M8u and M8.2 to the point that i don't use my Leica and Rokkor 40 anymore on the latter. My favorite lens on the R-D1 remains the Summicron-C 40/2 though but it won't find any use on the M240, most probably, for the same reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 13, 2013 Share #26 Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) For 40mm lenses, the 35mm framelines of film Ms, M8 and R-D1 are significantly more accurate at long to medium distance than those of M8u and M8.2 to the point that i don't use my Leica and Rokkor 40 anymore on the latter. That makes sense. But I was responding to a comment that the 35 lines were 'way' more accurate for a 40 lens than a 35 lens, and for this to be true, one likely isn't using an M8u or M8.2, which is ideally suited for a 35 lens IMO. Your comment suggests that the poster is indeed using a stock M8. Jeff Edited May 13, 2013 by Jeff S Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruniroquai Posted May 13, 2013 Share #27 Posted May 13, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) and how fix the 40mm lenses on 0.85x viewfinders? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 13, 2013 Share #28 Posted May 13, 2013 I have not my M6J with me here but i guess 40mm lenses should bring up 50mm framelines normally, or the 35mm ones eventually if you file the flange of the lens for this purpose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruniroquai Posted May 13, 2013 Share #29 Posted May 13, 2013 Thanks! But I meant.. how accurate could be with 35 framelines on the 0.85x? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share #30 Posted May 13, 2013 ....at least from the 2nd page most of the threads deviate from the original topic. Would it not be wise to open a new thread on these frame lines dear colleagues:rolleyes: John 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 13, 2013 Share #31 Posted May 13, 2013 Sorry for the possible OT-ness but our discussion about 40mm lenses might interest both M8 and M240 users IMO since the viewfinder of the latter as well as that of M8u and M8.2 bodies is set to be accurate at 2 meters instead of 1m for the M8. To answer Bruniroquai's question, the 0.85x viewfinder of M6 and later film Ms should be set to be accurate at 1m or 0.7m if memory serves so their 35mm framelines should suit well at long to medium distance at least. Same for the M8, but not for M8u, M8.2 and M240 i'm afraid so 40mm lenses like Summicron-C 40/2, Nokton 40/1.4, M-Rokkor 40/2 or Sonnar 40/2.8 could well be the OP's "one lens" if he intends to acquire an M8 body and doesn't upgrade to M8u or M8.2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
becker Posted May 13, 2013 Share #32 Posted May 13, 2013 One of the best Storys ever read here thx. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruniroquai Posted May 13, 2013 Share #33 Posted May 13, 2013 Thanks lct! That's because I am thinking keep the 40 instead of 35.. Everybody must consider the 40, a bargain! Almost the same level with the 35 IV Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indina Posted May 13, 2013 Share #34 Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) Very sympathic approach and decision, John! I often leave my M9 at home, esp. when strolling towards crowdy spaces - just because I'm afraid someone might snatch it. And I HATE that since I consider it silly. But it's a fact - since I currently simply can't afford an insurance that covers such high value of gear. So I only take her out to (hopefully) safe places. I never feel this angst when taking my OM-D - though it's no cheap camera either. But I value her for having a more 'reasonable' price tag that makes me feel free to take it anywhere... And it gives a charming, often excellent image quality. . Edited May 13, 2013 by Indina 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rivercityrocker Posted May 15, 2013 Share #35 Posted May 15, 2013 But you still didn't say if your M8 has upgraded (2m) frame lines. That was the whole point of my comment, which was not meant to be caustic in any way (even though your responses appear to be so). I just would be surprised, based on your comment of the 40 versus 35 lens, if you had the upgraded lines. If not, you might consider an upgrade to your M8 (if still available), if framing accuracy at moderate distances is important to you. I've used many Ms over several decades, and the 2m lines are the best I've used, based on my needs and preferences. I'm glad the new M has them. YMMV. Jeff No, I have not upgraded my M8. I have no intention to (if it's even an option). The upgrade price is definitely not worth it, in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orient XI Posted May 15, 2013 Share #36 Posted May 15, 2013 A camera club to which I used to belong had its share of members with GAS. Many of these thought my ancient Leicas were way too expensive and a waste of money. As we all know the way to spend lots of money on photo gear is to go chasing the latest stuff on the market and then replace it (at a loss) as soon as the next "up-grade" appears. The saddest part of this is that the only people who profit from this are the governments with their sales taxes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted May 15, 2013 Share #37 Posted May 15, 2013 Very sympathic approach and decision, John! I often leave my M9 at home, esp. when strolling towards crowdy spaces - just because I'm afraid someone might snatch it. And I HATE that since I consider it silly. But it's a fact - since I currently simply can't afford an insurance that covers such high value of gear. So I only take her out to (hopefully) safe places. I never feel this angst when taking my OM-D - though it's no cheap camera either. But I value her for having a more 'reasonable' price tag that makes me feel free to take it anywhere... And it gives a charming, often excellent image quality. . sell the omd and buy insurance for the M9. and then take it everywhere you go. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indina Posted May 15, 2013 Share #38 Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) sell the omd and buy insurance for the M9. and then take it everywhere you go. Selling the OM-D? No way! Shooting in the zoo or wildlife (tele) or under dark circumstances / at night (live time feature, live bulb, image stabilisator) or Macro... or using the glorious FT 7-14mm is something I'd definitely miss. M9 is useless for these. . Edited May 15, 2013 by Indina 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted May 15, 2013 Share #39 Posted May 15, 2013 Well, it's all about money, isn't it? I have always felt that no one really NEEDS a Leica, there is lots of other photographic equipment on the market which is able to take excellent pictures. On the other hand, there is something special about using Leicas, they certainly are very fine pieces of machinery, and their optics are second to none. So assuming one WANTS a Leica, it all boils down to whether you can afford it without sacrificing other (potentially more important) things in life. As long as I (and I hasten to add, my wife, too ) do not feel like sacrificing more important things, I am not going to sell any of my Leica gear any time soon. But I would if I had to. Cheers, Andy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Verrips Posted May 19, 2013 Share #40 Posted May 19, 2013 Thanks for sharing your (recognizable) story! I bought myself a M9 + Elmarit 2.8/21 Asph + Summilux 1.4/35 Asph + Summilux 1.4/50 Asph + Summarit 2.5/9 + an old Metz Mecablitz 32CT7 The M9 + 50 + is the combo i use most (98%) of the time. Thought about selling the 21+90 but as long as i don't need the cash i keep them. The only thing i would like to acquire is a film M, but just one body is also a pleasant situation, never have to choose..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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