msap7222 Posted May 9, 2013 Share #1 Posted May 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Serial is 2387243 Thanks guys! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/204336-how-old-is-my-502-cron/?do=findComment&comment=2317306'>More sharing options...
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Jeff S Posted May 9, 2013 Share #2 Posted May 9, 2013 Version III, probably around 1970. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted May 9, 2013 Share #3 Posted May 9, 2013 Version III, probably around 1970. According to Erwin Puts' Leica Pocket Guide, 1970 is perfectly correct. It's from a batch of 2,000 pieces, with serial numbers from 2385701 to 2387700. It's the very first batch of lenses of the year 1970. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 9, 2013 Share #4 Posted May 9, 2013 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Summicron_%28II%29_f%3D_5_cm_1:2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted May 9, 2013 Share #5 Posted May 9, 2013 Many people dismiss this model, but I've used mine since 1969 and have been very pleased with it. I also have a 2012 Summicron, and in most conditions differences are slight. Mine is from the first batch of this mount style made in 1968. One oddity: it didn't have the raised red dot on the mount, just a red-paint mark in a dimple on the chrome base when I bought it new in 1969. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted May 9, 2013 Share #6 Posted May 9, 2013 Why is it dismissed - is it because it's perceived not to be of Bokeh royalty? I've always been curious about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
msap7222 Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted May 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for the year. Interestingly, I had a ver II 50 Lux and could never get it to focus on my M9 as well as this 1980 50 Cron. It's a sweet little lens - sharp and compact. I just bought a new 50/1.4 Lux ASPH so I'll see how I go nailing focus with that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted May 10, 2013 Share #8 Posted May 10, 2013 Many people dismiss this model, but I've used mine since 1969 and have been very pleased with it. I also have a 2012 Summicron, and in most conditions differences are slight. Mine is from the first batch of this mount style made in 1968. One oddity: it didn't have the raised red dot on the mount, just a red-paint mark in a dimple on the chrome base when I bought it new in 1969. I reacquired a 1969 50 Summicron a few years back. Originally I bought one new in 69 with my M4 but then later sold it to buy a DR 50 Summicron which seemed to be a tad sharper. But when I got my M8 the DR was a no go lens so, a few years later, when I got my M9, I bought the same red dot painted ss # 233xxxx 50 and love it for its color rendition. It also renders B&W quite nicely. It is one of those lenses that I think of when people talk about the Leica glow. My only complaint about this lens is that even with the shade it tends to flare when pointed anywhere near the sun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted May 10, 2013 Share #9 Posted May 10, 2013 I reacquired a 1969 50 Summicron a few years back. Originally I bought one new in 69 with my M4 but then later sold it to buy a DR 50 Summicron which seemed to be a tad sharper. But when I got my M8 the DR was a no go lens so, a few years later, when I got my M9, I bought the same red dot painted ss # 233xxxx 50 and love it for its color rendition. It also renders B&W quite nicely. It is one of those lenses that I think of when people talk about the Leica glow. My only complaint about this lens is that even with the shade it tends to flare when pointed anywhere near the sun. Puts notes in his Chronicle that the "69" Summicron was based on the earlier Summicron-R design. I also bought a Leicaflex SL in 1969 with one, and it could flare quite severely in those conditions too. I recall reading in one of the Leica magazines some years later how Leitz began working with multicoating on that lens and was amazed at the difference it made in flare. However, once you know about such conditions you can avoid the situations that cause it, or use it creatively in images (which is easier on an SLR where it is often visible in the finder). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted May 10, 2013 Share #10 Posted May 10, 2013 ... it could flare quite severely in those conditions too. I recall reading in one of the Leica magazines some years later how Leitz began working with multicoating on that lens and was amazed at the difference it made in flare. I have an Elmar 5 cm 1:3.5 from 1938 which is entirely uncoated and does not flare half as much as the current or previous 50 mm Summicrons do. Sure—in strong backlight it will lose a lot of its contrast, but in a benign and uniform way across the frame which is easy to compensate for. It never totally ruins the shot as the Summicron so frequently does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted May 10, 2013 Share #11 Posted May 10, 2013 I have an Elmar 5 cm 1:3.5 from 1938 which is entirely uncoated and does not flare half as much as the current or previous 50 mm Summicrons do. Sure—in strong backlight it will lose a lot of its contrast, but in a benign and uniform way across the frame which is easy to compensate for. It never totally ruins the shot as the Summicron so frequently does. I agree - I have a 1941 Elmar (uncoated) and have noticed the same. I was recently given an early 1950s coated Elmar, but haven't used it enough to compare. The flare issue with the Summicrons is one reason I might consider getting a current Summilux 50 - but I don't like the size or the price. How flare prone is the 50 Summarit 2.5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted May 10, 2013 Share #12 Posted May 10, 2013 How flare-prone is the Summarit 50/2.5? It's not entirely flare-free (no lens is)—but clearly better than the Summicron. When the Summilux-M 50 mm Asph is too large/heavy/expensive then the Summarit-M 50 mm 1:2.5 will be the way to go. And the Summarit-M 35 mm 1:2.5 is even better in this regard—most flare-resistant lens I ever came across. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfhrased Posted May 25, 2013 Share #13 Posted May 25, 2013 Why is it dismissed - is it because it's perceived not to be of Bokeh royalty? I've always been curious about it. Higher contrast with lower resolution - but I adored my copy, and miss it greatly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo101 Posted May 26, 2013 Share #14 Posted May 26, 2013 It is a great lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim-St Posted June 4, 2013 Share #15 Posted June 4, 2013 I got one of these a few months back (a '71, acc to the Wiki) and it's seldom off my M9. My first Leica 50, and I really love the way it draws. I've had just one instance of unanticipated and excessive flair in over one thousand shots, and for now I'll live with that. Two things I don't really like about it are the very long focus-throw (>180º) and the cumbersome hood that has to be dragged off and reversed each time you want to put the cap on it (though a CV centre-pich cap fits inside the un-reversed hood and works quite well). Can anyone suggest which 35 Cron version will best match/ compliment the way this lens draws? Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted June 5, 2013 Share #16 Posted June 5, 2013 I use a 35 Summicron type 4 (German from the 90s) in combo with my 1969 50 Summicron. They pair well though the 50 seems a touch warmer. Neither are coded and if I forget to dial the lens in, (perspective and memory aside) I can not tell which lens was used most of the time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted June 5, 2013 Share #17 Posted June 5, 2013 I've used a v2 35 Summicron (1969 or 70) along with my 50 since I bought them new. Both were designed about the same time, and I think are quite compatible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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