mirekti Posted April 30, 2013 Share #1 Posted April 30, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Soon I'll be buying a Billingham Hadley Small for Leica M, 35 lux and 75 cron. Along the way I might add a 21 SEM to the kit, but this shouldn't happen too soon. I was wondering would those three lenses (one of it attached to the body) fit that bag? The other thing I wondered was, what shoulder pad would you use on this bag an SP20 or SP40? Thanks!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rramesh Posted April 30, 2013 Share #2 Posted April 30, 2013 I have both the Hadley Small and the larger Pro. Small contains M9-P with 28 Summicron 50 Summilux, 21 Color Skopar Filters Leica table tripod External key fob (perfect to sling Gitzo 2561 monopod) Additional space for notepad and documents This is sufficient for a short trip. For the small, I don't use a shoulder pad. Hadley Pro Can contain all of the above Additional 1 lens (90 Elmarit-M) or flash MacBook Air 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted April 30, 2013 . For the small, I don't use a shoulder pad. Do you think one doesn't need a shoulder pad for the small one? I mean, wouldn't it be more comfortable to have one? In pictures they, both SP20 and SP40, look as if the bag's strap would fit them perfectly, but SP40 seemed a bit wider on the padded side and that was why I had questioned myself which one to get. Hm, I might start of with none and than maybe when get a chance to try it out in some store decide upon which one to get, 20 or 40. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ph- Posted April 30, 2013 Share #4 Posted April 30, 2013 I have the Hadley small too, and it fits nicely the M9 with 3 lenses, with some packing even 4. What I like most is that actually my iPad 3 fits into the back spacing. This still leaves the front pockets free for accessories, like batteries, filters and even my light meter fits into them. I am not using a shoulder pad. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted April 30, 2013 Share #5 Posted April 30, 2013 I don't fully understand the desire to cram as much into a small space as possible but as I have both a Hadley Small and a Hadley Pro I'll chip in. Yes the Hadley Small will easily take a camera and three lenses, and the Hadley pro will take the same, and more. But if either was used for anything other than just transporting a camera and lenses I would always use the bag that is the next size up. So if a Hadley small takes three lenses I would only use it if I were using one or two lenses. And likewise although my Hadley Pro can take five lenses I would only use it with a maximum of three. The comfort of being able to take a lens off and just drop it into a bag is paramount, and too many lenses in a small space means that space constantly needs organising. It slows down photography, it is frustrating, it is inefficient on every level in helping to get a photograph. It even means you can't carry other things that may aid concentration and productivity, like extra food and water. So while it is technically possible to cram a camera and three lenses into a Hadley Small it really is just a self defeating axiom. A Hadley Pro is what you need for three lenses and a body. Steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted April 30, 2013 Share #6 Posted April 30, 2013 Using the Billingham key fob to carry a monopod. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/203713-billingham-hadley-small-for-my-leica-kit/?do=findComment&comment=2310935'>More sharing options...
Per P. Posted April 30, 2013 Share #7 Posted April 30, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Soon I'll be buying a Billingham Hadley Small for Leica M, 35 lux and 75 cron.Along the way I might add a 21 SEM to the kit, but this shouldn't happen too soon. I was wondering would those three lenses (one of it attached to the body) fit that bag? The other thing I wondered was, what shoulder pad would you use on this bag an SP20 or SP40? Thanks!! Mirekti, When I used my Hadley Small it typically contained M9 with 50 Summilux mounted and 2-3 additional lenses (e.g. 24, 35 and 90). Sorry about the shameless plug but the bag is actually for sale. Drop me a PM in case you'd be interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenper Posted April 30, 2013 Share #8 Posted April 30, 2013 Soon I'll be buying a Billingham Hadley Small for Leica M, 35 lux and 75 cron.Along the way I might add a 21 SEM to the kit, but this shouldn't happen too soon. I was wondering would those three lenses (one of it attached to the body) fit that bag? The other thing I wondered was, what shoulder pad would you use on this bag an SP20 or SP40? Thanks!! My Hadley Small can easily accommodate a M9 with the 35 and 75 Summicrons plus an 135 Tele-Elmar, with shades mounted, and with any of the three lenses mounted on the camera (if 135, then lens down in the middle, riding on the dividers). I have one extra divider. In fact, I seldom do carry the 135, but as I say, it can easily be done. I also own the Hadley original, but it is unnecessarily large for just the Leica gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share #9 Posted April 30, 2013 Thanks a lot for very useful comments. I believe I'll buy a small version as pro is a bit bigger and the bag will be used for light traveling and commuting. The last thing I'd like to now is related to the shoulder pads. Usually, I carry a bag over my head so I thought the shoulder pad would be useful not to have a strap cutting into my neck. I'm just not sure whether SP40 would be to wide on the strap side for the bag's strap. SP20 seems to be a bit on the narrow side so I don't think it will help a lot with my neck. Unfortunately I cannot examine those two in person in near future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenper Posted April 30, 2013 Share #10 Posted April 30, 2013 Never owned a shoulder pad for the Billinghams; nor have I ever missed one (I usually take them off first thing when using bags or camera straps that come with them). I want the strap to glide smoothly when pulling the bag to the front to get at its contents, and then back again to let me shoot unobstructed. So the Domke type straps with rubber threads are a nuisance until the rubber wears out (it does, in a rather short time). My Hadley Original was used mainly with Leicaflex gear, occasionally even with Hasselblad (yes, there was room for a Hassy with 80 mounted, and a 150 beside it), and I never missed any pad even with that kind of heavy load. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 30, 2013 Share #11 Posted April 30, 2013 The comfort of being able to take a lens off and just drop it into a bag is paramount, and too many lenses in a small space means that space constantly needs organising. It slows down photography, it is frustrating, it is inefficient on every level in helping to get a photograph. It even means you can't carry other things that may aid concentration and productivity, like extra food and water. This is one reason why bag threads continue to thrive. Folks who exclusively work out their bag will likely agree with your philosophy and approach. Others might use a bag for travel or transport, i.e., to get from point A to point B. Once at B, however, they'll dump the bag and work with camera on their body, with maybe another lens in a pocket or pouch. On a long trip, they might need space for personal items, but on a short car ride to a photo destination, they might not. Extra lenses can stay in the bag, in the car, for quick walkabouts. Some prefer to work with 2 bodies to avoid lens changes, or do that sometimes but not always. One might stay in a smaller bag, or both might be carried without the bag. Sometimes weather dictates working out of a bag, e.g., if it's too warm for a jacket to provide cover. And so on. There are countless approaches, and some people (including me) employ different approaches on different occasions. And so there is no one size, or one philosophy, to fit all. And that's without even getting into the endless brand debates. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted April 30, 2013 Share #12 Posted April 30, 2013 I have a Hadley small. In it I carry an M9, a Tele Elmarit M 90, a Sony nex, an Apo Telyt 135, a CV12, a lux 50, an ipad mini, extra batteries... No shoulder pad as it's good to shift the bag around and I have the other camera with the 35 on my other shoulder ready for use. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roydonian Posted May 13, 2013 Share #13 Posted May 13, 2013 I’m surprised that you can get that amount of kit into a Hadley Small. I use the original Hadley, and have the interior divided into three compartments. The wide central compartment contains the M9 with a lens attached, and the narrow compartments at either end hold either a single lens, or two lenses mounted back-to-back on a double-sided rear cap. One of the front pockets contains the lens brush, microfibre cloth, the hood & finder for my 21mm Elmarit, and perhaps the near-focussing device for the 5cm collapsible Summicron. The other has the spare battery: a small box with a couple of SD cards; plus anything else that seems potentially useful for that day’s outing. The latter often includes a small pair of nail scissors – any rough edge, chip or crack on a fingernail will inevitably snag on the green lining on the bag’s interior. Best regards, Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted May 13, 2013 Share #14 Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) Thanks a lot for very useful comments. I believe I'll buy a small version as pro is a bit bigger and the bag will be used for light traveling and commuting. The last thing I'd like to now is related to the shoulder pads. Usually, I carry a bag over my head so I thought the shoulder pad would be useful not to have a strap cutting into my neck. I'm just not sure whether SP40 would be to wide on the strap side for the bag's strap. SP20 seems to be a bit on the narrow side so I don't think it will help a lot with my neck. Unfortunately I cannot examine those two in person in near future. As others have suggested,for what you describe you will regret not getting the Pro. Plus I find the handle on the Pro very useful. The back pocket on the Pro will take a A4 document.. I think the shoulder pads match the width of the webbing, and the Billingham site will tell you this. Enjoy a great bag whichever you choose. Edited May 13, 2013 by pedaes Addition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 13, 2013 Share #15 Posted May 13, 2013 Ugh-umm... try this bag forum. You guys are going to love this site. http://www.thebagforum.com (Hi Per) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 13, 2013 Share #16 Posted May 13, 2013 :D:D Never not funny. Regards, Bill Sent from another Galaxy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roydonian Posted May 15, 2013 Share #17 Posted May 15, 2013 Ugh-umm... try this bag forum. You guys are going to love this site. http://www.thebagforum.com I did not love having my time wasted by an irrelevant URL. Another 'humourist' joins my kill file. Doug 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted May 16, 2013 Share #18 Posted May 16, 2013 I did not love having my time wasted by an irrelevant URL. Another 'humourist' joins my kill file. Doug You might want to try brightening up just a wee bit. ... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted May 16, 2013 Share #19 Posted May 16, 2013 As an aside, don't worry too much about bags, folks. .. Eventually, we all end up having not one but two, three and even four bags to choose from depending on the occasion. Trust me. ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted May 17, 2013 Share #20 Posted May 17, 2013 As an aside, don't worry too much about bags, folks. .. Eventually, we all end up having not one but two, three and even four bags to choose from depending on the occasion. Trust me. ... I just turned around and counted 8 bags on the shelves. And that is at home, not at the studio. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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