otto.f Posted February 24, 2013 Share #1 Posted February 24, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I hope this whole MM / filter discussion (a topic that is certain to be debated forever on forum like LUF) doesn't discourage people who might want to try the Monochrom from taking the plunge as they are led to believe that the camera is difficult to master. Because, IMHO, that couldn't be further from the truth ... with or without filters. The files are quite easy to work with in post processing as long as you remember to not blow the highlights. One of the easiest ways to make certain that that doesn't happen is to make certain you underexpose by -1/3 to -1. (I typically keep my camera on -2/3.) There is so much to work in the files as you move back the exposure slider while post processing in Lightroom that you can adjust contrast, clarity, highlights and shadows to suit your taste. Totally agree with your encouragement. Two remarks: -This may be a matter of taste but I have never seen a blown highlight on my MM thus far with Exposure compensation at 0. However a spotmeter would be very nice in this camera - I prefer processing in CameraRaw because the results seem to have more depth in them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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01af Posted February 24, 2013 Share #2 Posted February 24, 2013 I prefer processing in Camera Raw because the results seem to have more depth in them. More depth in comparison to processing with what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted February 24, 2013 LR4 I must add that I often work with Duotone in PS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted February 24, 2013 Share #4 Posted February 24, 2013 I prefer processing in Camera Raw because the results seem to have more depth in them.More depth in comparison to processing with what?Lr 4. So you're just mystifying yourself. There is absolutely no, nil, nada difference in the results between Lightroom and Camera Raw—provided, of course, all the settings are the same. They share the very same raw conversion engine. If you actually see a difference then one or more of the settings were different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted February 24, 2013 Share #5 Posted February 24, 2013 So you're just mystifying yourself. There is absolutely no, nil, nada difference in the results between Lightroom and Camera Raw—provided, of course, all the settings are the same. They share the very same raw conversion engine. If you actually see a difference then one or more of the settings were different. Yup. LR is basically a graphical frontend (GUI) / Shell for ACR. Adjusting the same settings to the same values in LR and ACR will yield identical results. IF you are using the same version of ACR of course. Installing the latest version of LR does not install the latest version of ACR in Photoshop. You need to update (and own the latest PS version) to be able to get the latest ACR code as well. So if you are using LR4 and PS CS5 for example that could cause different results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted February 24, 2013 I use CS6 and LR4. The difference I see can very well be an effect of the toning I do in CS6 with Duotone, a result that I cannot reach in LR4 so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks500 Posted February 25, 2013 Share #7 Posted February 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I know this thread is drifting a bit but I have had my MM for a few days now and I was forced;) to use LR as Aperture doesnt work with the RAW files and I am so glad I did. You can see that LR is at least a generation (maybe two) ahead of Aperture in what it can do and how well it does it and unless Apple get their act together I will forget about Aperture and go to an Adobe workflow for all my cameras. Not that means much because I like many people feel that Apple are winding up their Pro software/hardware and a couple of retina display macbook's dont really cut the mustard....sorry about the rant lets get back on topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 25, 2013 Share #8 Posted February 25, 2013 Moved into a new thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted February 25, 2013 Share #9 Posted February 25, 2013 I use CS6 and LR4. The difference I see can very well be an effect of the toning I do in CS6 with Duotone, a result that I cannot reach in LR4 so far But you do the duotone in Photoshop Module not the ACR Module right? They are not saying LR is like Photoshop. They are saying LR is the same as ACR as long as you have updated BOTH. Big difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted February 25, 2013 But you do the duotone in Photoshop Module not the ACR Module right? They are not saying LR is like Photoshop. They are saying LR is the same as ACR as long as you have updated BOTH. Big difference. Yes I should have said that CS6 gives me more satisfying results for my mystified subjective eye than LR4. After all, photography is something somewhere between science and art where beliefs play a roll too. Just like painters have beliefs about their brushes. Without them they cannot produce their art, just like Leica-owners see things to capture because they virtually see it through Leica glass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted February 25, 2013 Share #11 Posted February 25, 2013 Yes I should have said that CS6 gives me more satisfying results for my mystified subjective eye than LR4. After all, photography is something somewhere between science and art where beliefs play a roll too. Just like painters have beliefs about their brushes. Without them they cannot produce their art, just like Leica-owners see things to capture because they virtually see it through Leica glass. I don't think anyone is arguing with you. i like LR4 where I develop the image (ala ACR) and then ship 99% of then to CS6. I always like working with Layers and painting in corrections where needed. Ironically, I just got off the phone with Stephen Johnson who is good friends with Thomas Knoll and an alpha tester for Photoshop. He developed the Duotone Module for CS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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