01af Posted February 17, 2013 Share #41 Â Posted February 17, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Anyone have comment on the Elmarit-M 24/2.8 versus the Elmar-M 24/3.8? On the M9, the Elmar-M should be used with the Elmarit's lens profile manually selected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thighslapper Posted February 17, 2013 Share #42 Â Posted February 17, 2013 Are you still looking to sell your 24mm 2.8? Â I've just self 6 bit coded it and changed the metal hood for a rubber one I can pull off when not needed, so I am resigned to keeping it. Â Selling Leica lenses is a bit like giving away your children ...... I almost invariably regret it so I'm hanging on to all of mine unless starvation forces me to part with them.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 17, 2013 Share #43 Â Posted February 17, 2013 If it were the bulk i would have bought a 24/2.8 for a long time but the 24/3.8 is superb on the M8.2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted February 17, 2013 Share #44  Posted February 17, 2013 …changed the metal hood for a rubber one I can pull off when not needed, …[/QUOTE]  What rubber hood is that? Interested… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted February 18, 2013 Share #45 Â Posted February 18, 2013 Not everyone... I haven't had such an email. Â You can have mine if you like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert-gregory Posted February 18, 2013 Share #46 Â Posted February 18, 2013 Better than the newish 24/3.8? And how about the 24/1.4? Â I like the 24mm view, a wide view that seems 'natural'. Used it on an R4 so when the focal length became available for the M I bought the elmarit just after it was introduced. Its a great lens optically but for some reason it just never 'felt' right. Looked at the Elmar and liked its size, but just not fast enough for an all-around lens. Â Have had the 24 Summilux now and although it seemed too large in paper it handles very well, balances nicely on the camera, and with a beautiful image quality. Just as good as the Elmarit at 2.8 but better at f1.4-f2 ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted February 18, 2013 Share #47 Â Posted February 18, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...and bought the 24/2.8 Elmarit in 2006, then bought another one two years later because I love the focal length so much. To me so much more usable than the 21. ... Â Exactly my opinion as well. A 24mm lens, if used right, gives a lot of coverage without screaming out "wide angle" all the time. Simply a great lens! Â Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted February 18, 2013 Share #48 Â Posted February 18, 2013 Better than the newish 24/3.8? And how about the 24/1.4?All of these lenses are good. But for me, the Summilux was too big/heavy and I don't need f1.4 on a lens that's verging on a super-wide. The Elmar is nice and small and I only took a small number of shots with it but I just prefer the way the Elmarit renders. I think maybe the Elmar is a bit sharper but that's not an issue for me I'm more interested in the way a lens draws. I've had the Elmarit for a fairly long time and it's looking a bit worn but I'm very comfortable with it and I'm probably biased because of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 18, 2013 Share #49 Â Posted February 18, 2013 On the M9, the Elmar-M should be used with the Elmarit's lens profile manually selected. Â A bit of a misunderstanding. By Elmar-M I meant the newest 6 bit coded lens the 24/3.8 #11348. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted February 18, 2013 Share #50 Â Posted February 18, 2013 A bit of a misunderstanding. No. Â Â By Elmar-M I meant the newest 6-bit-coded lens, the 24/3.8 ... So did I. Â Â ... #11348. You mean, 11648. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 18, 2013 Share #51 Â Posted February 18, 2013 Yes, #11648. Are you then saying that the code for the 24/3.8 should be manually changed because you prefer the Elmarit code for it? I never dreamed of changing a 6 bitted lens manually to another code. Perhaps a good idea. But why? Maybe I missed your explanation earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted February 18, 2013 Share #52 Â Posted February 18, 2013 Are you then saying that the code for the 24/3.8 should be manually changed because you prefer the Elmarit code for it? Exactly. The Elmar's own profile vastly under-corrects the vignetting. The fact that according to Leica's data sheets the vignettings of both 24 mm lenses, Elmarit and Elmar, basically are equal seems to indicate that there's a firmware error in the Elmar-M 24 mm Asph's lens profile. Â I first noticed with firmware v1.162 (which doesn't mean earlier versions were better; I just didn't check), and in the current version v1.196 the issue is still there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 18, 2013 Share #53 Â Posted February 18, 2013 24/3.8's vignette looks under-corrected on my M8.2 as well. I'll try the 24/2.8 coding. Thanks for sharing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyedward Posted February 18, 2013 Share #54 Â Posted February 18, 2013 The 24 is also nice in one more aspect in that you don't really 'NEED' an external finder. the whole rangefinder window is approximately 24mm, so you can generally guesstimate the framing. Â Does this hold true for a .72x viewfinder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted February 18, 2013 Share #55 Â Posted February 18, 2013 Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted February 18, 2013 Share #56 Â Posted February 18, 2013 I don't wear glasses (yet), but am amazed how close you get your eyeballs to the finder. I found the Minolta CLE's finder was doing the job ok, but that's .58. On .72 (M6), already the 28mm frame played hide-and-seek with me. Now, once you get the feel for the lens it probably matters less. Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 20, 2013 Share #57  Posted February 20, 2013 …changed the metal hood for a rubber one I can pull off when not needed, …[/QUOTE]  What rubber hood is that? Interested…  ...... well I eventually bought a selection of screw in collapsible ones ... most of which were visible in the corners of the pictures, so I ended up cutting most of them down in an effort to avoid this. The actual problem is the screw in mount that pushes the hood too far forward ..... I eventually hit on the ploy of removing the rubber bit from the mount ...... they usually have a lip that sits in a groove in the mount. This is just about the right size to fit in the groove that the original metal hood fits in on the 24..... so I just pull the rubber hood over till it locks into position. Can't recall what size fits best but it needs a bit of stretch to stay in place. When off it can be folded/stuffed anywhere.  Anyway, I can't abide lens hoods unless they are really necessary, and here in the UK we get so little sun that you can live without one most of the time.... so most of my bigger metal Leica ones are in a box.  Same trick works perfectly for the MATE, and I have a fixed rubber one instead of the disastrous scratching contraption that came with the 90/4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootinglulu Posted February 21, 2013 Share #58 Â Posted February 21, 2013 Noah Addis, a very good photographer and helpful forum member here once, he really rated the 24 Elmarit, I have wanted one since I saw his Leica work with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasis7 Posted February 24, 2013 Share #59 Â Posted February 24, 2013 i'd get Elmar 3.8! no trouble with aperture, as you can get lower speed since it is wide lens. Â I didnt acquired this yet, this is rare lens to get as used Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted February 24, 2013 Share #60 Â Posted February 24, 2013 Â Anyway, I can't abide lens hoods unless they are really necessary, and here in the UK we get so little sun that you can live without one most of the time.... so most of my bigger metal Leica ones are in a box. Â Opposite here in the sunny Antipodes , except for today (cloudy & raining) when I wanted to go out to do some photography:mad:) Â I very rarely go out without the lens hoods fitted, although I also like them for the protection they offer the lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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