dhsimmonds Posted February 5, 2013 Share #81 Posted February 5, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well done again Jono! You really are a dark horse!! Superb images as always. I am returned from my travels and I see you are too!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Hi dhsimmonds, Take a look here The REAL M-240 sample images - congrats to Jono Slack. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
mtomalty Posted February 5, 2013 Share #82 Posted February 5, 2013 Just want to clarify one thing. I downloaded the references from Leica, directly, and only had jpeg version available relating to my question above and did not realize others were downloading from here so disregard anything to do with Raw vs. jpeg in my question Mark 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstlight Posted February 5, 2013 Share #83 Posted February 5, 2013 Hi Therethanks for the thanks! In Live View When you press the shutter, the camera has to close the shutter and charge the sensor and then open the shutter again - this takes a perceptible amount of time, which means that Live view isn't really ideal for action photography. Please note - if live view is turned off, this doesn't happen, and the picture is taken very quickly. I hope this helps Indeed this helps . I'm mainly interested in the Rangefinder. I've got a NEX for liveview.. Thanks alot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted February 5, 2013 Share #84 Posted February 5, 2013 Very interesting I had a play as if it was an M9 file and found it quite different (Okay only one picture so far) when converting to B&W I ended up dropping the exposure and upping the white slider to keep the dynamic range but drop the high white level on the face. I was very impressed with the ISO performance at 2,500, better than the M9 at 1000 my usual 'pick' when struggling for light. Hi there I really like the black and white conversions - not really appropriate to show them here, but they do really well IMHO. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 5, 2013 Share #85 Posted February 5, 2013 Thanks Andy Please don't shoot me either (nervous doesn't quite describe it!) I hope that you're all as enthusiastic as I am. All the best Jono, Having been ill for the last couple of weeks, this has cheered me up no end. The first really good news we have had on the M-240 since September - well done. The loaf of bread looks good enough to eat Wilson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted February 5, 2013 Share #86 Posted February 5, 2013 Regarding the shutter lag, how much time we are talking about? A quarter of a second, a half of the second? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjh Posted February 5, 2013 Popular Post Share #87 Posted February 5, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Regarding the shutter lag, how much time we are talking about? A quarter of a second, a half of the second? I would say it is less than 100 ms. There is also some delay when using matrix or spot metering in rangefinder mode (since the camera needs to open the shutter for image sensor-based metering), but it is even (if only slightly) less than that. True rangefinder mode is as fast as it used to be. 20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted February 5, 2013 Share #88 Posted February 5, 2013 Regarding the shutter lag, how much time we are talking about? A quarter of a second, a half of the second? HI There I'm sorry - I haven't a good way of testing this, and there's no guarantee that it won't be improved in the production models anyway - I'd say much much less than 1/4 second, but I'm really only guessing. For most purposes I don't think you'd notice it, but as I said in my write-up, it isn't the answer for action photography. All the best 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboch Posted February 5, 2013 Share #89 Posted February 5, 2013 The shutter lag in live view also occurs with the D800 for example... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rscheffler Posted February 5, 2013 Share #90 Posted February 5, 2013 Thanks for making these available,Jono. They help shed a little light on the sensor One little nitpik if you could confirm,svp.. The snow scene with trees and blue sky (jpeg version only) seems to not be too terribly sharp. If I were a betting man i would suggest that the image is not focussed on the trees but rather the snow in the extreme foreground on the bottom left. Detail is extremely sharp here but seemingly off in the trees. If you check the GPS coordinates for that shot, you'll see it's obvious Jono made the shot while skiing down the slope! I would guess 1/750 was a touch too slow to freeze the movement. Seriously though, I agree the tree branches don't look quite right. You can also see there is a bit of jagged edges on some of the branch tips, while others are a bit blurred looking. Will be interesting to see results with shipping firmware. Of which, I find it a bit curious that Leica would OK the release of early camera/firmware images, since they're apparently not representational of what later cameras/firmware produced. It's obvious these files will be seriously poked and prodded more than normally would be, to find any weaknesses. That said, we have to commend Leica for being fairly transparent and allowing such flaws to be found. Contrast this with the typical sample photos from other manufacturers that are typically SOOC Jpegs with a fair amount of NR applied. Thank you Jono for the compelling range of images and informative write-up. Glad to read in your comment above that you haven't noticed edge colour shifts with wide angle lenses! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted February 5, 2013 Share #91 Posted February 5, 2013 Hi Jono, Congratulations and many thanks for the revealing photographs! As expected you have come through again in timely fashion. You are building up quite a track record being involved with the rollout of the M9 and MM as well. Leica certainly picked the right man for the job! And they, Leica, seem to have another winning camera. I hope you can keep your M240! Good show! Thanks again. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted February 5, 2013 Share #92 Posted February 5, 2013 Hi thereI really like the black and white conversions - not really appropriate to show them here, but they do really well IMHO. I agree. I have converted a few in Silverefex pro and the range looks really good 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlindstrom Posted February 5, 2013 Share #93 Posted February 5, 2013 I'm the first one in line in the relevant camera shop (the one with the Leica corner....blah...) in Finland, interesting to see if I will get my camera at the same time as people in "more important" countries. Hah! We're line sharing! I'm in the same line, though obviously not in the first place.. agreed in a trade sometime in november. Trading in my M9. I'm queueing in their pro shop in Turku. //Juha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted February 5, 2013 Share #94 Posted February 5, 2013 Thanks for posting these, Jono. They show beyond doubt that one can use the Leica M and get results. The image quality of the Leica M9 went up considerably after some months of collective use, and the Leica M will do the same. But for now the images show that the camera can perform, also at high ISO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted February 5, 2013 Share #95 Posted February 5, 2013 Jono, Having been ill for the last couple of weeks, this has cheered me up no end. The first really good news we have had on the M-240 since September - well done. The loaf of bread looks good enough to eat Wilson HI There Wilson I'm really sorry you've not been well - and very pleased to have provided a bit of amusement! The bread would be a bit stale by now, but the camera is really splendid. GET WELL SOON all the best 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muc_marlin Posted February 5, 2013 Share #96 Posted February 5, 2013 Hello Jono, thank you very much for the time and effort, this really helps to get a impression! Can you draw any conclusion about the battery? Thinking of shots per charge and cold, nasty weather. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlindstrom Posted February 5, 2013 Share #97 Posted February 5, 2013 But for now the images show that the camera can perform, also at high ISO. This has certainly been relieving. I'm actually quite happy with the high iso of my X2. Now the new M seems to trump that.. so basically I'm getting all that I could wish for - my M9 with better than my X2 high iso. What more could one wish for? Combine that with a 50 slux.. soon shooting black cats in a coal cellar :-) //Juha Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted February 5, 2013 Share #98 Posted February 5, 2013 Seriously though, I agree the tree branches don't look quite right. You can also see there is a bit of jagged edges on some of the branch tips, while others are a bit blurred looking. Are you kidding? Perhaps your expectations are over-the-top. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschone Posted February 5, 2013 Share #99 Posted February 5, 2013 Ok, but I really need to see DNG's more in line with the photos of Jean Gaumy to see what this new camera is capable of. Greater DOF, photos taken between f8 and f11, details like green foliage, details in the background to check the ccd vs. cmos discussion etc. Use of normal to medium wide lenses. Hope Leica understands that not everyone is interested in "Bokeh" (whatever that means) and we will see "different" DNG perfomance proofs added soon to the website. Jochem Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted February 5, 2013 Share #100 Posted February 5, 2013 Seriously though, I agree the tree branches don't look quite right. You can also see there is a bit of jagged edges on some of the branch tips, while others are a bit blurred looking. Will be interesting to see results with shipping firmware. Huh????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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