philipus Posted February 12, 2013 Share #61 Posted February 12, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I wouldn't mind a collapsible lens, for instance 28mm or 35mm. And I'd also like modern lenses to be made in LTM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tobey bilek Posted February 12, 2013 Share #62 Posted February 12, 2013 $7000 35 2.0 APO to mate with the 50 APO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rscheffler Posted February 13, 2013 Share #63 Posted February 13, 2013 How about a 16/3.8 Super Elmar ASPH? I was thinking more of a 14/4 (or a bit slower to keep the size down) since a 16 is already available as the WATE and pretty close to the 18, as mentioned by someone else. Make the 14 with the same image quality as the 21 SEM, and at a 'similar' price point, and I'd be happy. The 21 SEM really is a bargain by Leica's pricing standards for its performance. But then, as an owner of the CV12 &15 lenses, I'm very curious to see how they perform on the M240. Especially the 15. By why stop at 14mm? How about a 10 or 11/5.6 to take back the insanely-wide rectilinear crown from Cosina? Such a focal length combined with the M240's EVF/live view might actually be usable. On the other end I could see a 180/4. It would be a useful travel lens and a good companion to the M240. But I'm sure it wouldn't be inexpensive and many might find an adapted R zoom in this range more practical, and perhaps cheaper. Or some Nikon, Minolta, Canon or Pentax legacy lenses to be good enough. I wouldn't mind the prime, especially if it could be made uncharacteristically short for the focal length. What I would miss though is image stabilization, which IMO is a very useful feature of my Canon zoom at this focal length. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPB Posted February 13, 2013 Share #64 Posted February 13, 2013 A further vote for a 14mm SEM of small size and with the quality of the 21 SEM or 24 EM. And I would also appreciate an Apo-Summicron 2/28 Asph as a companion for the Apo 50. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted February 13, 2013 Share #65 Posted February 13, 2013 ...Of course a new version of a 40mm lens is quite necessary.... What? None of the current Leica cameras has framelines for a 40mm lens, so why should they bother. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted February 13, 2013 Share #66 Posted February 13, 2013 a shift only (no tilt) 24 Summicron a 35-90 with AF a 180 or 200 mm 2.8 a new version of the apo-telyt 135 but 2 or 2.4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstlight Posted February 13, 2013 Share #67 Posted February 13, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) What? None of the current Leica cameras has framelines for a 40mm lens, so why should they bother. Andy maybe the new M can handle 40mm framelines with firmware updates? ..or is this fixed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted February 13, 2013 Share #68 Posted February 13, 2013 maybe the new M can handle 40mm framelines with firmware updates?..or is this fixed? I believe the framelines are still fixed. Instead of natural light, they now use a LED for lighting them, but the framelines themselves are still provided in a mask, similar to how it is on every Leica M so far. If the framelines were electronically generated, things would be different, but this would require a hybrid viewfinder à la Fuji. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 13, 2013 Share #69 Posted February 13, 2013 If not a 35 Nocti, then an APO 35, but if not wide then an APO 180. If think a zoom is more unlikely either wide or long, but they could make an APO 80-200 from 2.0 to 3.4, i.e., bigger than f4.0. Karbe said in one interview he wanted to stop making M lenses that looked like Coke bottles, so in my mind that would point more toward an APO 35. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40mm f/2 Posted February 13, 2013 Share #70 Posted February 13, 2013 What? None of the current Leica cameras has framelines for a 40mm lens, so why should they bother. Andy None of the current Leica cameras have correct frame lines at infinity. A 40mm lens fits the 35 mm frame lines at larger distances much more correctly than a 35 mm lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted February 13, 2013 Share #71 Posted February 13, 2013 ... A 40mm lens fits the 35 mm frame lines at larger distances much more correctly than a 35 mm lens. That may be true, but the framelines are not exclusively designed for larger distances. Which is why Leica will never sell a 40mm lens if there are no framelines for that focal length. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 13, 2013 Share #72 Posted February 13, 2013 a shift only (no tilt) 24 Summicrona 35-90 with AF a 180 or 200 mm 2.8 a new version of the apo-telyt 135 but 2 or 2.4 +1 for a 180/2.8 This was one of my most used lenses on my Nikon cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted February 14, 2013 Share #73 Posted February 14, 2013 Karbe said in one interview he wanted to stop making M lenses that looked like Coke bottles, so in my mind that would point more toward an APO 35. Are there any lenses which look like coke bottles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted February 14, 2013 Share #74 Posted February 14, 2013 +1 for a 180/2.8 This was one of my most used lenses on my Nikon cameras. If you have Nikon 180mm f2.8 lens you may well use it on forthcoming M(240) via F-M adaptor, even better if you can find APO Elmarit 180mm but it is doubtful IMHO if Leica will ever again produce non RF coupled lens for M camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted February 14, 2013 Share #75 Posted February 14, 2013 It was Alfred Schopf that said it, not Peter Karbe. The size of lenses was discussed in the context of the M system as a very compact system. Still, I find the BJP's report somewhat odd in that it notes that Schopf "acquiesced" - an odd choice of words imho - to the suggetion that what would be presented at photokina would not be a "compact" model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 14, 2013 Share #76 Posted February 14, 2013 philipus- Perhaps you are correct, but I was thinking of Overgaard's site where he had an interview with Karbe and I thought it was mentioned there. Maybe not or maybe more than one person mentioned it. @marknorton--The obvious coke can looking lens is the 50/0.95 Noctilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 14, 2013 Share #77 Posted February 14, 2013 ...A 40mm lens fits the 35 mm frame lines at larger distances much more correctly than a 35 mm lens. Not with the M8.2 hence probably not with the M-240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 14, 2013 Share #78 Posted February 14, 2013 If you have Nikon 180mm f2.8 lens you may well use it on forthcoming M(240) via F-M adaptor, even better if you can find APO Elmarit 180mm but it is doubtful IMHO if Leica will ever again produce non RF coupled lens for M camera. No, I don't have any Nikon lenses left. Why would such a lens need to be RF coupled? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 14, 2013 Share #79 Posted February 14, 2013 If you have Nikon 180mm f2.8 lens you may well use it on forthcoming M(240) via F-M adaptor, even better if you can find APO Elmarit 180mm but it is doubtful IMHO if Leica will ever again produce non RF coupled lens for M camera. I have no Nikon gear left. It's theft is what got me into Leica. Why would a 180 lens for the M240 need to be RF coupled? There are no frame lines, and using the RF patch would be a pain to focus. The more critical point is that Leica has made a camera that will take lenses wider than 18 mm and longer than 135 mm, yet they don't currently make these lenses. It would seem sensible for them to use some existing designs to fill that market - particularly if they don't need complex RF couplings, aperture connections or electronics. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted February 14, 2013 Share #80 Posted February 14, 2013 philipus- Perhaps you are correct, but I was thinking of Overgaard's site where he had an interview with Karbe and I thought it was mentioned there. Maybe not or maybe more than one person mentioned it. @marknorton--The obvious coke can looking lens is the 50/0.95 Noctilux. I don't see it looks like either a coke can or - as your original post - a coke bottle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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