sdk Posted February 2, 2013 Share #21  Posted February 2, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is tangential to the new 50mm/1.5, but it’s very weird Cosina never actually produced the 75mm/1.8 SLII lens for Nikon AIP and Canon EOS mounts. They announced it two years ago, but never marketed it. I wonder what happened to it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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farnz Posted February 2, 2013 Share #22 Â Posted February 2, 2013 For those who have tried the previous LTM version, does it focus shift like the Zeiss Sonnar? I had a black one and relaxed it with a silver one and haven't noticed appreciable focus shift in either of them but to be fair I've never gone looking for it either. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted February 2, 2013 Share #23 Â Posted February 2, 2013 looking at the old Nokton review on Steve Huff's site, the bokeh is quite harsh, distracting at times even, but then again, it could have been his post. that made it that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeswe Posted February 2, 2013 Share #24 Â Posted February 2, 2013 I am interested in the new Nokton, as I see that some emphasis has been put on distinctly separating the aperture and focus ring. To explain, I owned the LTM Nokton for a while and it was an ergonomic nightmare. Relatively stiff focus ring with a not very well defined aperture ring next to it that would move by the slightest touch. So it happened quite frequently that I was changing the aperture setting inadvertently (and without initially noticing) while focusing. Quite annoying. The optics were good, but then I didn't find them to be anything special or obviously superior compared to the pre-ashp Lux II. Maybe that was a result of individual sample variation (as always with CV, unfortunately). Anyway, while I found it to be good value for the money, the ergonomics of the focus/aperture ring together with the noticeable finder blocking were too much of a tradeoff in my eyes, and I sold the lens after a couple of months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted February 2, 2013 Share #25 Â Posted February 2, 2013 I am interested in the new Nokton, as I see that some emphasis has been put on distinctly separating the aperture and focus ring. To explain, I owned the LTM Nokton for a while and it was an ergonomic nightmare. Relatively stiff focus ring with a not very well defined aperture ring next to it that would move by the slightest touch. So it happened quite frequently that I was changing the aperture setting inadvertently (and without initially noticing) while focusing. Quite annoying. The optics were good, but then I didn't find them to be anything special or obviously superior compared to the pre-ashp Lux II. Maybe that was a result of individual sample variation (as always with CV, unfortunately). Anyway, while I found it to be good value for the money, the ergonomics of the focus/aperture ring together with the noticeable finder blocking were too much of a tradeoff in my eyes, and I sold the lens after a couple of months. This is my experience exactly, it has too much focus shift if you shoot it both wide open and stopped down, I also sold it again, and got the latest 50 Summicron instead, much better in all aspects except one stop more dof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted February 2, 2013 Share #26 Â Posted February 2, 2013 I had a black one and relaxed it with a silver one and haven't noticed appreciable focus shift in either of them but to be fair I've never gone looking for it either. Dang that sneaky, pesky spell checker - meant replaced not relaxed. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted February 2, 2013 Share #27  Posted February 2, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) A bit more info here:  Nokton 0,95/42,5 mm und Nokton 1,5/50 mm asph. | photoscala  It will be available in both black and silver in Summer 2013 and prices will be communicated only then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iedei Posted February 2, 2013 Share #28 Â Posted February 2, 2013 looking at the old Nokton review on Steve Huff's site, the bokeh is quite harsh, distracting at times even, but then again, it could have been his post. that made it that way. Â part of the reason i can never take any 'fast' Voigtlander lenses seriously any more is the frankly terrible bokeh they have......like a haphazard, disorganized, and overall unattractive background haze that happens with them. i've noticed a lot of their 'fast' lenses have this same style of bokeh.....when i had a CV 35mm F1.4, it annoyed the hell out of me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted February 2, 2013 Share #29 Â Posted February 2, 2013 part of the reason i can never take any 'fast' Voigtlander lenses seriously any more is the frankly terrible bokeh they have......like a haphazard, disorganized, and overall unattractive background haze that happens with them. i've noticed a lot of their 'fast' lenses have this same style of bokeh.....when i had a CV 35mm F1.4, it annoyed the hell out of me! Allow me to disagree: "different" yes, "terrible" no. Although I have never owned the 35/1.4, I find the bokeh of the 35/1.2 and 50/1.1 a valid alternative to that of the Summilux 35/1.4 or the Noctilux 50/1.0. I use each of them according to the mood. But, as always, bokeh is a matter of taste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepcat Posted February 2, 2013 Share #30 Â Posted February 2, 2013 I think I have to agree with Ecar... my Nokton 50 f/1.1 just arrived yesterday, and I was playing with it last night... I was surprised to find the bokeh, at least in this image, to be quite pleasant. I'll know more, of course, after I use it a while under differing conditions, but so far, I'm quite pleased with the Nokton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted February 2, 2013 Share #31 Â Posted February 2, 2013 I've always liked the out of focus rendering of my CV 35/1.2 Nokton v1 too. Very colourful, soft and not harsh (but quite different from a Sonnar for the record). I had the CV 35/1.4 for a while but I moved it on because of chronic back focus and focus shift; I also found the out of focus areas harsh like Syed did. Who knows with Voigtlander, it might just be sample variation. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 2, 2013 Share #32 Â Posted February 2, 2013 The bokeh of the CV 35/1.4 "SC" is not harsh at all but my sample shows severe focus shift as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted February 2, 2013 Share #33 Â Posted February 2, 2013 This is my experience exactly, it has too much focus shift if you shoot it both wide open and stopped down, I also sold it again, and got the latest 50 Summicron instead, much better in all aspects except one stop more dof. Â Lenses don't have focus shift when used wide open and my LTM 1.5 certainly has no shift at any aperture that goes outside DOF if it's there at all. It's more likely either sample variation ( a dud lens calibration) or a bad LTM adaptor. Â Â Â Â My 50 1.5 LTM saved me $3000 as I didn't end up buying the 50mm Summilux I had on order. The aperture ring has loosened a bit with ecxtensive use but on my copy the focus is lovely. Not to stiff and not to light. It's the same on the 35mm 1.2 I have. Â Although the one I have is plenty sharp enough, any improvements in sharpness or rendering would be very tempting. What I'd love to see is a rendering match to the 35mm 1.2. Â Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted February 2, 2013 Share #34  Posted February 2, 2013 Lenses don't have focus shift when used wide open and my LTM 1.5 certainly has no shift at any aperture that goes outside DOF if it's there at all. It's more likely either sample variation ( a dud lens calibration) or a bad LTM adaptor.... We agree on that.  I didn't explain what I meant good enough apparently  Yes the lens is calibrated to be in focus at 1.5 no problem to use it wide open, even at 2.0 it's about OK, but when you stop the lens further down to 4.0 or 5.6 you will have the dof from the focus plane and back, zero dof in front of the focus plane; back focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted February 4, 2013 Share #35 Â Posted February 4, 2013 just for the record- by 1200- I meant 1200 USD or roughly 880 Euro. Seems to me a consensus forming around this price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafster Posted February 4, 2013 Share #36 Â Posted February 4, 2013 It will be interesting to see how it compare against ZM C-Sonnar. Am looking to get a good copy ZM C-Sonnar though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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