marknorton Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share #81 Posted January 29, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Think of a 50mm lens with a 180 degree focus throw on a camera with a .91X range/viewfinder. ... which sadly we do not have. If it ever stops raining here, I will try again with a viewfinder magnifier, I only have the 1.25 but it may help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Hi marknorton, Take a look here APO-SUMMICRON-M 50 mm f/2 ASPH has arrived!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
semi-ambivalent Posted January 30, 2013 Share #82 Posted January 30, 2013 No, it won't. If you don't see the point of this lens on an M9 then you won't see it on a new M (Type 240). And one thing is for sure—this lens is not, repeat: NOT about bang for the buck. It's about what can be done when money is no object. For any company money is never no object. Leica has to move these things to re-coup R&D and manufacturing costs. So the thing is not that much superior to the 'Lux? Even a little bit of superiority can go far if your Leica M (290) has 40-50MP. That's probably less than 5 years away in digital camera time, maybe 7 (tops) by Leica's clock. That's where they're looking. They know that the lenses are kept much longer than the bodies; there will be no digital M3. Zeiss is openly committed to ultra-performance lenses that can hold up against the high pixel count sensors being produced even today. Leica has no choice but to follow. At some point increasing resolution will be handled not by better optics but by adaptive sensor firmware. Sort of like Hubble. s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhanebeck Posted January 30, 2013 Share #83 Posted January 30, 2013 Did you try the APO 50 on a Monochrom? Or marknorton--any tries with a MM? All, just received the APO today via mail and happen to have a Monochrom. I did not have time to take more than a few test shots which I used to see how the focus behaves on my camera. Obviously, these are not scientific results in any way e.g. no tripod, a bit of camera shake at 1/30 sec, etc. Also, my estimates of where focus begins and ends are less than accurate. Nevertheless I hope this is helpful in some way ... : ) Cheers, Chris Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/196814-apo-summicron-m-50-mm-f2-asph-has-arrived/?do=findComment&comment=2229298'>More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted January 30, 2013 Share #84 Posted January 30, 2013 100% crops from various areas would be helpful... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfx Posted January 30, 2013 Share #85 Posted January 30, 2013 In case someone is interested, on my flickr account you can find some quick and dirty test shots taken with the lens: Flickr: - Hilmo -'s Photostream Those are really nice shots. Bokeh looks like the 50mm Summilux ASPH at f/1.4. Impressive. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 30, 2013 Share #86 Posted January 30, 2013 << just received the APO today via mail... >> Hello Chris, Thanks very much for these. You seem to be the first person on the forum here from the States to receive your 50 APO. Can I presume you ordered it through a US dealer? I am eagerly awaiting my copy and am very encouraged to finally see them starting to show up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhanebeck Posted January 31, 2013 Share #87 Posted January 31, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) << just received the APO today via mail... >> Hello Chris, Thanks very much for these. You seem to be the first person on the forum here from the States to receive your 50 APO. Can I presume you ordered it through a US dealer? I am eagerly awaiting my copy and am very encouraged to finally see them starting to show up! Hi Jager, Congrats on buying the APO! I have not had time to really try it, but from what I have seen so far it works extremely well with the Monochrom. The IQ is visibly better than the Lux or even the Nocti. I got mine through Meister Camera in Berlin. Apparently I was the first to order while I was in Germany last year. The plan was to pick it up on a subsequent trip. Who whould have thought that it'd take six month. The dealer was really nice about it though and agreed to ship at no additional charge. If the Monochrom is any indication, you might get yours in about a month. Cheers, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhanebeck Posted January 31, 2013 Share #88 Posted January 31, 2013 100% crops from various areas would be helpful... Hi Erik, Here are a few crops of the focus and border areas wide open. I have taken these out of Lightroom by way of screen capture. The quality is thus not good, but hopefully it gives you a better view. Let me know, if you'd like to see any other areas or anything above f/2. Cheers, Chris Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/196814-apo-summicron-m-50-mm-f2-asph-has-arrived/?do=findComment&comment=2229410'>More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share #89 Posted January 31, 2013 I realise the geometry of the shot may be confusing me but is the camera/lens combination front focussing? I realise a shot like this has more in the foreground than background but this mirrors my own results, much more in focus in front of the focus point than behind it. What's the distance from the camera to the focus point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhanebeck Posted January 31, 2013 Share #90 Posted January 31, 2013 I realise the geometry of the shot may be confusing me but is the camera/lens combination front focussing? I realise a shot like this has more in the foreground than background but this mirrors my own results, much more in focus in front of the focus point than behind it. What's the distance from the camera to the focus point? Hi Mark, I think you are right. When I look at the test shots, it seems that the camera-lens combination is front-focusing wide open. I stood pretty close to the hedge and maybe a little over three feet away from the focal point. Obviously nothing was properly executed in these tests, which makes me a bit hesitant to draw any conclusions at all. A few more shots tonight confirmed that (a) the lens is very hard to focus, especially under low-light conditions, and ( the image quality, when you get it right, is absolutely worth the trouble. I had the exact same issue when I started using the 75 Cron. After sending it to Allendale for an adjustment, it has become much easier to focus. Cheers, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted January 31, 2013 Share #91 Posted January 31, 2013 I had the exact same issue when I started using the 75 Cron. After sending it to Allendale for an adjustment, it has become much easier to focus. It would be very disappointing if your new exotic Leica flagship lens needed to be re-calibrated out of the box to allow you to focus it properly . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share #92 Posted January 31, 2013 I am wondering whether mine is the same... and itr's interesting Chris is finding it hard to focus as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 1, 2013 Share #93 Posted February 1, 2013 My wife has had her APO 50 arrive at her dealer. Exciting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share #94 Posted February 1, 2013 My wife has had her APO 50 arrive at her dealer. Exciting! I'm sure we'll be intrerested to hear what she/you think of it - there's a spectrum of opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 2, 2013 Share #95 Posted February 2, 2013 Well, strange as it sounds I got a call from my dealer today and he has shipped my APO 50 which should arrive early next week. Then my work will begin in earnest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted February 2, 2013 Share #96 Posted February 2, 2013 Two in one family! Isn't that ideal for making stereo pairs for 3-d visualization? :D Enjoy! And please let us know about your experienes. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundestrainer Posted February 2, 2013 Share #97 Posted February 2, 2013 Same as Bobu (Boris), I'm going to sell my APO Summicron 50. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted February 2, 2013 Share #98 Posted February 2, 2013 We could conduct an interesting poll regarding the new 2.0/50 Summicron APO. 1 Number of purchases or trials 2 Number of returns or on-sales 3 Time between 1 and 2 above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundestrainer Posted February 2, 2013 Share #99 Posted February 2, 2013 I've uploaded some more photos to my stream: Flickr: - Hilmo -'s Photostream In particular now you can find some portraits taken with the lens. In my view the rendering of the lens is gorgeous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillavoider Posted February 2, 2013 Share #100 Posted February 2, 2013 I've uploaded some more photos to my stream:Flickr: - Hilmo -'s Photostream In particular now you can find some portraits taken with the lens. In my view the rendering of the lens is gorgeous. WOW the photos are stupidly sharp, i would not want to be captured with this lens, its so sharp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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