Bobu Posted January 25, 2013 Share #21 Posted January 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yawn ... the Summilux shot has camera shake The camera was on a very stable Gitzo tripod, the shot was done using the self timer, 2/3 of the image is sharp. An earthquake shaking the church tower at the moment of the shot is more likely than camera shake ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 Hi Bobu, Take a look here APO-SUMMICRON-M 50 mm f/2 ASPH has arrived!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
k-hawinkler Posted January 25, 2013 Share #22 Posted January 25, 2013 Thanks for posting. The AA shot certainly looks sharp and very detailed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share #23 Posted January 25, 2013 Yes, thanks for posting. The weather is terrible where I now am so no opportunity to test yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobu Posted January 26, 2013 Share #24 Posted January 26, 2013 Update of my experiences with this lens with some new sample images: More Tests of the Apo-Summicron-M 2.0/50mm Asph. | Wild Places Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted January 26, 2013 Share #25 Posted January 26, 2013 Sorry, I stand corrected! In my post above, I assumed the Summilux test picture was flawed by camera shake. Not so! Today, I took some test shots with my own Summilux-M 50 mm Asph lens at f/2 on the M9, on a similar subject and at a similar distance as Bobu's ... and daaang! At the image height chosen by Bobu for his crops, my pictures also look as if they were blurred by camera shake. There's a zone at, say, 12 - 15 mm image height where the Summilux, at f/2, has comparatively poor image quality indeed. I never noticed before ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted January 26, 2013 Share #26 Posted January 26, 2013 Update of my experiences with this lens with some new sample images:More Tests of the Apo-Summicron-M 2.0/50mm Asph. | Wild Places Thanks for posting your experiences. Very interesting. It seems some imperfections of the camera/lens combination still need to be worked out. Question: How does the lens perform, say on an NEX-7, where correct focus can be achieved? Focus there is certainly not affected by rangefinder calibration issues. Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobu Posted January 26, 2013 Share #27 Posted January 26, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for posting your experiences. Very interesting. It seems some imperfections of the camera/lens combination still need to be worked out. Question: How does the lens perform, say on an NEX-7, where correct focus can be achieved? Focus there is certainly not affected by rangefinder calibration issues. Thanks again. Interesting question, which I'm affraid can't answer. Besides my M9s I have only a DP2M. No lifeview-camera to mount the 50AA. But I really wait for the arrival of the new M with lifeview. Testing (and 100% sharp images in the field) will be so much easier. Boris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted January 26, 2013 Share #28 Posted January 26, 2013 Hi Boris, Thanks. Hopefully that's pretty soon now. Of course, that will be very interesting how the AA does on the M240 and what else you will discover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted January 26, 2013 Share #29 Posted January 26, 2013 just in awe that Leica could surpass the 50 Lux ASPH! corner performance of the AA is very shockingly superb. This will justify the price vs 1 stop trade off for many of us to come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 26, 2013 Share #30 Posted January 26, 2013 just in awe that Leica could surpass the 50 Lux ASPH! corner performance of the AA is very shockingly superb. This will justify the price vs 1 stop trade off for many of us to come The corners of your photographs must be very important. Let's see some please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundestrainer Posted January 26, 2013 Share #31 Posted January 26, 2013 Thank you very much for sharing your experience. Did you take a portrait? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunnzzzz Posted January 26, 2013 Share #32 Posted January 26, 2013 Mark I am on a m list with them too. So it's gonna be march? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobu Posted January 26, 2013 Share #33 Posted January 26, 2013 Thank you very much for sharing your experience. Did you take a portrait? No, since 90% of the images I shoot are landscapes, I was mainly interested to evaluate the landscape performance of this lens. Boris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundestrainer Posted January 26, 2013 Share #34 Posted January 26, 2013 No, since 90% of the images I shoot are landscapes, I was mainly interested to evaluate the landscape performance of this lens. Boris Could you please take a portrait with both lenses? Would love to see a comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Branch Posted January 26, 2013 Share #35 Posted January 26, 2013 Sorry, I stand corrected! In my post above, I assumed the Summilux test picture was flawed by camera shake. Not so! Today, I took some test shots with my own Summilux-M 50 mm Asph lens at f/2 on the M9, on a similar subject and at a similar distance as Bobu's ... and daaang! At the image height chosen by Bobu for his crops, my pictures also look as if they were blurred by camera shake. There's a zone at, say, 12 - 15 mm image height where the Summilux, at f/2, has comparatively poor image quality indeed. I never noticed before ... It's clearly shown on the MTF curves published by Leica for this lens. They don't specifically include f2 but the f1.4 and f2.8 curves have the dip in IQ at ~12mm so f2 is going to have it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
120 Posted January 26, 2013 Share #36 Posted January 26, 2013 Well, just one more, kudos to the brilliant lens ...Again, f2.0, focus was on the camera. Regards GEORG what is on the Viso? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobu Posted January 26, 2013 Share #37 Posted January 26, 2013 Could you please take a portrait with both lenses? Would love to see a comparison. I'm affraid that's not possible. I've decided to return the lens and won't do any further testing. Boris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enboe Posted January 26, 2013 Share #38 Posted January 26, 2013 Boris - sorry to hear the lens did not meet your expectations, but thank you for the samples you provided. Too bad you didn't post it in the Buy & Sell section (wink!). Now I guess the rest of us will wait to see when the lenses reach the rest of the world. So far, it appears Germany and the U.K. are the only places where the lenses have been released. I would request that people in other geographic regions post once theirs arrive as well. Enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundestrainer Posted January 26, 2013 Share #39 Posted January 26, 2013 It is likely I'm going to get the lens on Monday. I'm not sure whether I will keep it or not. But I definitely want to give it a try, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted January 27, 2013 Share #40 Posted January 27, 2013 I'm affraid that's not possible. I've decided to return the lens and won't do any further testing.Boris Why don't you sell the Lux? The APO-Summicron seems to be perfect. What have you expected of this lens? By the way, wouldn't it have been better to compare the Lux at 1.4? Take a look at the MTF curves. The 40 lp (fine structures) are at 1.4 much different from the curves at 2.8 and 5.6. Thank you for the interesting test. Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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