cirke Posted December 26, 2012 Share #1 Posted December 26, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is there any confirmation somewhere from Leica that the new M will not have a AA filter ? for the moment it is unclear Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 Hi cirke, Take a look here M 240 AA filter or not. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted December 27, 2012 Share #2 Posted December 27, 2012 I think it was made quite clear at the introduction - no AA filter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted December 27, 2012 Maybe but it is written nowhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 27, 2012 Share #4 Posted December 27, 2012 Ha ha! yes it is written nowhere that there are bubbles in Champagne either... or is it? More seriously, it is common knowledge that the M-240 sensor has no AA filter. This is confimed among others by Sean Reid who worked on the new M as you know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted December 27, 2012 it is common knowledge that the M-240 sensor has no AA filter.It is common to be wrong in what we believe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 27, 2012 Share #6 Posted December 27, 2012 But less so in what we know Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doolittle Posted December 27, 2012 Share #7 Posted December 27, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is there any confirmation somewhere from Leica that the new M will not have a AA filter ? for the moment it is unclear I haven't seen it anywhere in print that no AA filter is present. Pure conjecture on my part: I wonder if Leica are waiting until testing is complete to keep their options open? I asked at the Leica stand at Photokina and was told it had no AA filter. There is an interview with Stefan Daniel of Leica here, where he says no AA filter is present. Guess we will just have to wait until the camera is released for the definitive answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted December 27, 2012 I asked at the Leica stand at Photokina and was told it had no AA filter. I've got the same answer at Photokina Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted December 27, 2012 Share #9 Posted December 27, 2012 Besides Stefan Daniel, also Yesko Von Oeynhausen stated clearly, in a public interview, that the M240 sensor has not AA filter; in the sensor manufacturer' site (CMOSIS) is written that "...It is housed in a 78-pin ceramic package covered by a customized glass with anti-reflective coating and near-infrared cut-off filter". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TshawM8 Posted December 27, 2012 Share #10 Posted December 27, 2012 If you received that answer, why would you question it? Furthermore, why would you turn to a forum whose users likely have less information than you do (seeing as how you've already asked those associated with Leica). I am not trying to be too hard on you, I just don't understand what you expected to find here, aside from sarcastic answers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #11 Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) If you received that answer, why would you question it?Because I am used to the answer of sellers (and they don't know all) , and I found nowhere written by Leica that there is no AA filter I just don't understand what you expected to find here A link , thanks to luigi bertolotti http://www.cmosis.com/news/press_releases/new_leica_m_uses_cmosis_24_mp_cmos_image_sensor aside from sarcastic answers.Yours is the first sarcastic answer Edited December 27, 2012 by erick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted December 27, 2012 Share #12 Posted December 27, 2012 If you received that answer, why would you question it? Furthermore, why would you turn to a forum whose users likely have less information than you do (seeing as how you've already asked those associated with Leica). I am not trying to be too hard on you, I just don't understand what you expected to find here, aside from sarcastic answers. Yikes! Everyone, give the op courtesy at least! Why wouldn't he ask here, where individuals who just might know something he doesn't are likely to read his question? What exactly is the purpose of the forum after all? Wishing a happy and more civil new year to all.....Peter 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted December 27, 2012 Thanks Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted December 27, 2012 Share #14 Posted December 27, 2012 If you received that answer, why would you question it? Furthermore, why would you turn to a forum whose users likely have less information than you do (seeing as how you've already asked those associated with Leica). I am not trying to be too hard on you, I just don't understand what you expected to find here, aside from sarcastic answers. Wouldn't be the first time that Leica have given wrong information about their own product! When the M8 was first released people here started to query why blacks came out purple. Leica denied there was any problem at first....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted December 27, 2012 Share #15 Posted December 27, 2012 Is there any confirmation somewhere from Leica that the new M will not have a AA filter ? for the moment it is unclear HI Erick I've discussed this with both Stefan Daniel and Jesko von Oeynhausen face to face as it were (i.e. in the same room). I've also read it in interviews with them both. I've just looked through the Leica documentation, and as you say, it isn't mentioned. However, it seems very likely that these two would not know about their own sensor, and even more unlikely that they would spread misinformation. Of course, one can always choose to disbelieve, but then you can disbelieve printed matter as well! All the best Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted December 27, 2012 HI Erick it seems very likely that these two would not know about their own sensor, and even more unlikely that they would spread misinformation. Who says that ? me ? I have not discussed this with Stefan Daniel Of course, one can always choose to disbelieve, but then you can disbelieve printed matter as well!I don't believe or disbelieve I am just asking if someone has the information that I have not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted December 27, 2012 Share #17 Posted December 27, 2012 I haven't seen it anywhere in print that no AA filter is present. Pure conjecture on my part: I wonder if Leica are waiting until testing is complete to keep their options open? The decision for or against an antialiasing filter would have been made early on in the design process. It’s not an easy one to overthrow later either. (Btw, I don’t remember Leica having mentioned the absence of an antialiasing filter in the specs of the M9. But then of course it is part of Leica’s design philosophy to do without an antialiasing filter.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #18 Posted December 27, 2012 I don’t remember Leica having mentioned the absence of an antialiasing filter in the specs of the M9.No it is not in it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted December 27, 2012 Share #19 Posted December 27, 2012 Typo - really sorry Erick - I was being neither sarcastic or ironic, just a bad typist it seems very likely that these two would not know about their own sensor, t Of course I meant UNlikely Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #20 Posted December 27, 2012 Typo - really sorry Erick - I was being neither sarcastic or ironic, just a bad typist Of course I meant UNlikely no problem jonoslack Thanks for you answer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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