luigi bertolotti Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share #41 Posted January 30, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Luigi, Perhaps when your lens is fake, it is more collectable ! I anticipated the situation and this morning I scanned the back part of my Elmar . . . quite rough, and I pushed the high lights to show you my lens is not fake, ha! Now I am going to see how large the attachment can be. If you do not see the serial number, send me a pm with your email address and I will return a large file of this image . . . You could consider scanning the rear of your lens too. I selected the lens in a preview scan, put a small carton box over it and scanned it at 800dpi . . . Thanks !!! I see CLEARLY the s/n in your pic... let's say that if I DO find it on my item now that I know the position... I have no excuses on my blindness... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Hi luigi bertolotti, Take a look here V-Elmar. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
telewatt Posted January 30, 2013 Share #42 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) Nor had I, until I came across it here, in the database for enlarging lenses & their serial numbers . . . my 4.5 100mm is mentioned with a serial number range of this f4 100mm . . . link is: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Enlargers_and_Film_Processing By the way, with the Focotar II 5.6/100mm Leitz changed the position of the serial number to the front, easily readable. No doubt because they redesigned the entire lens, including the matte ring in the rear part: it has become much thinner without any room for a number . . . mine is from 1976 Yes, the list is a bit strange ... there was probably written down wrong or misread... even if the number of lenses have been built according to earlier, the delivery started for Focomat IIc with the new Focotar II 5,6/100mm in 1977 .. regards, Jan Edited January 30, 2013 by telewatt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share #43 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) AH !!! YOU MADE MY DAY !!! Ok... ther IS a number... so elusive that with a normal enlarging lens, under strong light, I finally did discover it...and couldn't decipher... Put it on my modest old flatbed scanner and this, is for now, the best I could achieve, at 2400 dpi : Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Few dgits are readable... (2724644 ? it too would belong to a V Elmar f4, and one of the last, even...) I'll wait for the week.end to make something better... I even don't remember if I have a decent loupe at home... I'll surely try with my M8 with proper macro setup... that ring is really matte. Thank you again, Machiel !!! Edited January 30, 2013 by luigi bertolotti Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Few dgits are readable... (2724644 ? it too would belong to a V Elmar f4, and one of the last, even...) I'll wait for the week.end to make something better... I even don't remember if I have a decent loupe at home... I'll surely try with my M8 with proper macro setup... that ring is really matte. Thank you again, Machiel !!! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/192561-v-elmar/?do=findComment&comment=2229240'>More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share #44 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) V-Elmar 4/100mm ?!?..........such a lens I have never seen or heard of... Jan Edit:... I once looked up briefly in the "Leica photography International" 3/1977, Focotar II 5,6 / 100mm was the direct successor to the V-Elmar 4,5 / 100mm ...and was offered from 1977.... After surfing and reading around... me too suspect that a V Elmar 4/100 indeed never existed... Puts' list describes the V Elmar 100 always as "40 100" right from the 1st batch starting 1691701... and didn't find any reference to a f 4 lens (apart our Wiki... ) , nor any picture, or item for sale, or catalog listing...always the 4,5 with few variants (apparently, only the engraving, or not, of the OZOFA code on the barrel). I found a page of a book (Leica darkroom Practice - Seck and Laney) which clearly writes that the 6x9 lenses for the Focomat were the Focotar 95 4,5, then the V Elmar 100 4,5, then the Focotar 2 100 5,6 Edited January 30, 2013 by luigi bertolotti Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Hilo Posted January 31, 2013 Share #45 Posted January 31, 2013 Good to read your Elmar has got the s/n !! When Jan remarked he had never seen or heard of this f4 version, I thought it was the same for me. I just believed the Wiki data. I then did the same as you, checked the net and also old 2C booklets, there's never mention of such a lens. To make sure I will ask a friend who worked for the company at that time already, but we kind of know the answer. Btw, some probably unnecessary advise: when switching lenses it is better not to just squeeze and move to either left or right. Squeeze and lift up, and then move and gently drop it down . . . It will make life of the cable longer. And, now and then, don't forget to put a drop of sowing machine oil in the holes, marked red . . . After surfing and reading around... me too suspect that a V Elmar 4/100 indeed never existed... Puts' list describes the V Elmar 100 always as "40 100" right from the 1st batch starting 1691701... and didn't find any reference to a f 4 lens (apart our Wiki... ) , nor any picture, or item for sale, or catalog listing...always the 4,5 with few variants (apparently, only the engraving, or not, of the OZOFA code on the barrel).I found a page of a book (Leica darkroom Practice - Seck and Laney) which clearly writes that the 6x9 lenses for the Focomat were the Focotar 95 4,5, then the V Elmar 100 4,5, then the Focotar 2 100 5,6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share #46 Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) Ok... no enlarging lens, no scanner can equal my M8 + bellows + Elmar 90 3 elements lenshead... 2724644 as supposed, but now well clear... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Curiosly, in this picture it doesn't look engraved, but, on the contrary, relieved... I wonder if is really so or an effect of angle of lighting... Edited February 2, 2013 by luigi bertolotti 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Curiosly, in this picture it doesn't look engraved, but, on the contrary, relieved... I wonder if is really so or an effect of angle of lighting... ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/192561-v-elmar/?do=findComment&comment=2231465'>More sharing options...
M.Hilo Posted February 2, 2013 Share #47 Posted February 2, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Very good !! Let's assume the f4 Elmar did not exist, ok. Your lens then is from 1974 . . . Do you think your 2C is also from that year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share #48 Posted February 2, 2013 I have the V Elmar only... not the Focomat 2C (see the post that initiated this thread) And the lens which i used to take the above picture is # 1.913.742... by chance, (according to Puts' list) a batch in the middle between two batches of enlarger lenses (Focotar 50) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kds315 Posted February 22, 2013 Share #49 Posted February 22, 2013 I just got a V-Elmar 100m from Rimini (!!), but it is much older #16918xx (1959) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studienkamera Posted September 6, 2022 Share #50 Posted September 6, 2022 @luigi bertolotti, would you - or anyone else - happen to know the front diameter of the V-Elmar 100mm? I just bought one without lens cap and would like to organize a push-on lens cap before the lens arrives at my place. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share #51 Posted September 7, 2022 On 9/6/2022 at 4:14 AM, Studienkamera said: @luigi bertolotti, would you - or anyone else - happen to know the front diameter of the V-Elmar 100mm? I just bought one without lens cap and would like to organize a push-on lens cap before the lens arrives at my place. Thanks! 49mm Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/192561-v-elmar/?do=findComment&comment=4504748'>More sharing options...
Studienkamera Posted September 7, 2022 Share #52 Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, luigi bertolotti said: 49mm Thanks a lot, Luigi! That's very helpful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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