Longstanding Nikon Competition outlaws film scans for first time

[andybarton]

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Yet they still sell film cameras...

 

Nikon contest outlaws film images for first time | Amateur Photographer

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[Olimatt]

assholes

[Joop van Heijgen]

The medium is the message.....

[wildlightphoto]

I'm having a hard time imagining why they'd make such a dumb rule.

[earleygallery]

As the Nikon spokesperson decided not to comment maybe there will be a sudden change to the rules? Right hand, left hand....

 

Either that or they're worried that a film image might win and make people question why they keep spending money on new digital cameras

[CalArts 99]

These "contests" are really no more than manufacturer's marketing tools.

 

Andreas Kaufman announced quite loudly that b+w film photography is dead as he introduced the Monochrom. Yet his company still manufactures and sells the M7 and the MP film cameras. And the administrator of this forum has also elected to remove the M7 and MP as available Leica products from the top page banner.

[Messsucherkamera]

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As the Nikon spokesperson decided not to comment maybe there will be a sudden change to the rules? Right hand, left hand....

 

Either that or they're worried that a film image might win and make people question why they keep spending money on new digital cameras

 

That would drop a big steaming turd in the middle of the digital punch bowl, wouldn't it?

[bill]

I fear it wouldn't because they would check the shooting details and "overlook" any film image. I would go as far as to suggest that if you took the identical fantastic shot on an FM3a and a D800 the D800 shot would win.

 

...and I write as a long-term Nikon user.

 

These exercises, no matter how long the competition has been running, or how "prestigious" are there for one reason only - to generate positive column inches for the company and to shift more units as a result.

 

PS. I agree with the sentiment of "assholes" but I do feel that this is one of those words that has lost momentum on its way over the Atlantic. The UK version - "Arseholes" - is far more pithy when said out loud.

 

As an aside, I used to run project kick off workshops years ago part of which was to talk about solution testing in a memorable way. I would draw a big capital R up on the whiteboard then write words beside it: "Realistic", "Representative", "Repeatable", "Reliable" and so on.

 

I did one of these workshops with a Scottish colleague - she was a middle-aged lady with a strong "Morningside Edinburgh" accent. To reinforce the point I had just made about testing she jumped in and summarised with the words: "So there you are - testing in a nutshell. All you have to remember when building your test scripts is Bill's big Rs up on the board."

 

Regards,

 

Bill

[250swb]

On the marketing front I would imagine that displaying the 'resolution' from modern Nikon cameras and lenses would be the overidding factor, grainy fuzzy film images not likely to sell many new Nikon's. And of course all the EXIF files from film images will now be starting to show a preponderance 'Plustek' and 'Epson' as the camera used.

 

So this decision has little to do with encouraging great photography, and more to do with a lack of corporate confidence engendered by Japanese management at the moment. The camera wars are so finely balanced that they dare not risk a Nikon F tarnishing the D600. They could have a film category as a consolation, or they could just say on the outside chance of a film image winning 'Nikon, a camera for life, not just for buying and selling'.

 

Steve

[andym911]

That would drop a big steaming turd in the middle of the digital punch bowl, wouldn't it?

 

Could not have put it better if I had tried..:D:D

 

Excellent..made me smile

[andyedward]

These "contests" are really no more than manufacturer's marketing tools.

 

Andreas Kaufman announced quite loudly that b+w film photography is dead as he introduced the Monochrom. Yet his company still manufactures and sells the M7 and the MP film cameras. And the administrator of this forum has also elected to remove the M7 and MP as available Leica products from the top page banner.

 

Andreas Kaufman must really resent "having" to keep manufacturing and selling MP's and M7's. I played my part in keeping him pissed off when I ordered a new MP sixteen weeks ago, although judging by the amount of time I've waited so far, I'd guess he's unofficially ceased production already

[Messsucherkamera]

Andreas Kaufman must really resent "having" to keep manufacturing and selling MP's and M7's. I played my part in keeping him pissed off when I ordered a new MP sixteen weeks ago, although judging by the amount of time I've waited so far, I'd guess he's unofficially ceased production already

 

Some disciples of the digital camera like to brand film photographers as "luddites," using the term as a pejorative.

 

Digital cameras are a camera manufacturer's dream come true in terms of generating endless sales. Most humans (in modern cultures) are acquisitive, having been programmed to be that way by manufacturers and marketers. Photographers (many, not all) seem to be particularly prone to that mindset. Gear acquitision syndrome is rampant - gotta have that latest, greatest digital camera.

 

Given the above two points, let's examine this question: Is it possible that some people hold a prejudice with regard to film photographers?

 

Is it a prejudice that digital photographers have? Or is it a prejudice that folks like Herr Kaufmann have? Or is it both?

 

Your thoughts, please.

[AlanG]

Putting the film issue aside for a moment, isn't this contest open to non-Nikon cameras? So how is it just promoting Nikon digital cameras if images from other brands win? In which case why would they not want to accept scanned files?

[pop]

Question: Will you continue to produce the M7 and the MP?

 

Stefan Daniel: Yes, we will continue the production of the M7 and the MP. There is a continuing demand. While things remain that way we will keep on offering those cameras.

 

Alfred Schopf: We will certainly not cease the production of our analog M in the year of Leica’s centennial.

 

source: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/news/257136-leica-photokina-q-transcript.html

[robert blu]

Hmmm, they still produce film cameras but they stop time ago to produce scanners and never updated their nikonscan software or fix a bug they are (were) aware of. In my heart beside Leica was a space for Nikon a but lately it's always smaller...

Anyway this is their marketing strategy.

robert

[john_s]

......... And the administrator of this forum has also elected to remove the M7 and MP as available Leica products from the top page banner.

 

I hadn't noticed that. At least, thought I, that the Leica M is still there, thinking that it represented the (film) cameras that I refer to as "Leica M." I clicked on the link and was surprised to see that it's one of those electro-novelty cameras too!

[Torquinian]

Either that or they're worried that a film image might win and make people question why they keep spending money on new digital cameras

 

I think you have the answer there. I bought my R3 on 8th January 1980 and it is still going strong. Digital camera makers bring out new models every couple of years like Japanese car makers.

[Archiver]

Even film scans with Nikon scanners would therefore be not allowed! What a laugh! It's not a photography competition, it's a digital camera marketing campaign.

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