JDP Posted October 22, 2012 Share #1 Posted October 22, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm looking to get a 90mm M lens soon, and was hoping to take straw poll on the forum of what works well, is the cron worth the extra, etc, etc. Which would you get? 1. Elmarit 90mm 2. Cron 90mm pre-asph 3. Wait a bit for Cron 90mm apo asph I'm leaning toward the Elmarit for its more compact size, but also like to shoot quite a bit in lower light so would benefit from the extra stop. Argh, decisions, decisions. Any advice most gratefully received. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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viramati Posted October 22, 2012 Share #2 Posted October 22, 2012 Elmarit-M with the built in lens hood is one hell of a lens Leica Elmarit-M 90mm f/2.8 | La Vida Leica! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted October 22, 2012 Share #3 Posted October 22, 2012 If you must have the best quality at f/2, there is no alternative to the APO ASPH. If you must have f/2 but can't afford the APO ASPH, get the pre-asph. If you can do without f/2, the Elmarit-M (not the Elmarit or Tele-Elmarit) is a great lens - and there's nothing wrong with the Summarit (which is only half a stop slower than the Summicron). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik Posted October 22, 2012 Share #4 Posted October 22, 2012 This depends very much on your budget. I just recently got a well used but nice Summicron 2,0/90 from the early 1970s for less than 300 Euros. The Apo-version is for sure much nicer in every respect, just a little more costly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgcm Posted October 22, 2012 Share #5 Posted October 22, 2012 Elmarit-M with the built in lens hood is one hell of a lensLeica Elmarit-M 90mm f/2.8 | La Vida Leica! True. I bought an Elmarit-M 2,8 90 last week and I can say it performs very well. Franco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted October 22, 2012 Share #6 Posted October 22, 2012 Does anybody think we will see an FLE update of the APO any time soonish? Maybe not now with the new M? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted October 22, 2012 Share #7 Posted October 22, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Elmarit-M 90 mm with the built-in lens hood is one hell of a lens ... Sure it is ... but then, so is the Summarit-M 90 mm. Strange how this one consistently (but for no good reason) drops off everyone's radar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted October 22, 2012 Share #8 Posted October 22, 2012 the apo-summicron is ridiculously good! but buyers beware, with the new 50 apo-cron, there may be a FLE version of this lens in the, not too distant, future. but honestly though, i dont know what they can improve. the lens is already a beast to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 22, 2012 Share #9 Posted October 22, 2012 Elmarit-M 90 F2,8 - no more available but good user items aren't rare (I bought mine this way) - an excellent lens in any sense... just a bit heavy compared to my previous (and obviously NOT sold... ) Tele Elmarit "nano". Probably the Summarit 90 is as good... but I have the 75, optically superb, which after 4 years has developed some mechanical looseness... and the 90, I think, has the same build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgcm Posted October 22, 2012 Share #10 Posted October 22, 2012 Sure it is ... but then, so is the Summarit-M 90 mm. Strange how this one consistently (but for no good reason) drops off everyone's radar. I agree. I own all Summarits but the 90. All great lenses. I was in the shop to ask for a Summarit, but the clerk offered me the Elmarit-M I eventually bought. The price was too attractive Nontheless you are right when you write that too many friends do not take into consideration Summarits. I think that one can underrate Summarits only if one has never used one or if one reads too many reviews instead of judging with it's ownd mind. Franco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgcm Posted October 22, 2012 Share #11 Posted October 22, 2012 Elmarit-M 90 F2,8 - no more available but good user items aren't rare (I bought mine this way) - an excellent lens in any sense... just a bit heavy compared to my previous (and obviously NOT sold... ) Tele Elmarit "nano". Probably the Summarit 90 is as good... but I have the 75, optically superb, which after 4 years has developed some mechanical looseness... and the 90, I think, has the same build. Dear Luigi, the problem is related to the kind of grease used to lubricare the helicoid. Too thin. If you have your lens re-lubricated with a proper grease, it will work great for years The same lubrication problem affects 50 Summilux ASPH. New lube = new life. Ciao Franco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted October 22, 2012 Share #12 Posted October 22, 2012 My vote is for the Elmarit M 90mm, one of Leica's nicest rendering lenses. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoshawnuff Posted October 22, 2012 Share #13 Posted October 22, 2012 Look into the Summarit. The "cult" status of the Elmarit has to great heights in the last couple years, but the Summarit compares favorably at a lower price and with a warranty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 24, 2012 Share #14 Posted October 24, 2012 Dear Luigi,the problem is related to the kind of grease used to lubricare the helicoid. Too thin. If you have your lens re-lubricated with a proper grease, it will work great for years The same lubrication problem affects 50 Summilux ASPH. New lube = new life. Ciao Franco Hum... in my item the looseness doesn't seem tied to focus helicoid... is the front assembly that tends to have an axial play... if you catch the front (for instance, by the f stop ring) you "feel" that you can move it a pair of millimetres onwards... this, at the moment, hasn't any practical consequence, but it seems to became more significant and I fear that if I point the lens downards (indeed, not a frequent posture) the front assembly could move and defocus (the play is sufficient to cause defocus : I did verify). Thanks anyway for your tip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasis7 Posted October 24, 2012 Share #15 Posted October 24, 2012 summarit is MUCH esier to focus due large rubber ring. the rendition reminds of 90cron pre asph. pick one this either elmarit depending what kind of look do you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted October 24, 2012 Share #16 Posted October 24, 2012 Elmarit-M with the built in lens hood is one hell of a lensLeica Elmarit-M 90mm f/2.8 | La Vida Leica! +1 Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted October 24, 2012 Share #17 Posted October 24, 2012 There's something about the last Elmarit besides the geat optics. It's actually a beauty in the purest Bauhaus tradition, a simple cylinder, goes graphically great with the M. Handles well, too, and can fit in a jeans pocket. Just the hood can be a bit wobbly when extended and will easily telescope, as such not a very good mechanical protection (perhaps my 2nd hand copy?). Lastly, it has the 46mm filter thread (like the Summarit); compare to your other lenses if you want to use the same filter (e.g. colored for b&w). The Summicrons are 55mm. Feel more bulky, too. Alexander 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_dernie Posted October 25, 2012 Share #18 Posted October 25, 2012 I have the Apo Summicron, Elmarit M and Macro Elmar. The latter gets the most use. FWIW 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share #19 Posted October 26, 2012 My sincerest thanks for all the suggestions. Really very helpful indeed. I'm leaning toward the Elmarit at the moment as it seems good value second hand and will likely be used sparingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted October 28, 2012 Share #20 Posted October 28, 2012 Macro elmar image quality is fantastic. It's hard to take a bad picture with this lens..... Never found f4 a hindrance. Macro is a VERY useful bonus. Sold my 90/2 as it was far too heavy and a pain to use at f2 as DOF is so shallow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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