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35mm Noctilux


Paul J

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If the price relationship between the 35 and 50 remains consistent you are looking at £10k plus in the UK, I bet it would require some exotic glass and grinding so nearer £12-15 wouldn't surprise me.....

 

It will be interesting to see if the 'new' 35 APO Summcron f2.0 is as much or more than the 50 Noctilux !

 

(I have no clue if the new 35 is on the drawing board or not, but I'd put money on it being in process)

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Do you think we ever likely to see one? Would you want one?

 

No, I wouldn't want one nor do I think we will ever see one. The current ASPH is plenty big enough as it is and I can't say I have ever wished that I could open up the aperture wider than F1.4.

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They should hurry up, otherwise - with these unbelievable pricetags - one or the

other user might prefer to choose a NOKIA with a ZEISS-lens in future ...

 

 

Best

GEORG

 

It turns out that Nokia and Zeiss is a bit of a Lemon. THey are not even releasing it officially in the UK. When it seems things are too good to be true, it usually is.

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No, I wouldn't want one nor do I think we will ever see one. The current ASPH is plenty big enough as it is and I can't say I have ever wished that I could open up the aperture wider than F1.4.

 

I covet the Noctilux f1.0 for look and speed that would probably hold true for the 35 for me ;)

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While waiting for it, I would recommend to get a Voigtlander 35mm 1.2 acording to all reviews it is really good!

 

I am also waiting for it :)

 

Meanwhile, the Voigtlander 35/1.2 is indeed a good approximation and has a little bit of that Noctilux f/1 painterly character (despite being an ASPH lens with very smooth bokeh). On the downside, my v1 copy has low contrast wide open which does not improve much stopped down. A lens to be used wide open, near subjects. Colors are not up to Leica standards, but quite fit the painterly look, especially if pushed a bit.

I only have a used v1 copy; seems the v2 is a noticeable improvement but I never bothered to upgrade. The lens is quite long for a 35, but it is much more comfortable to handle than a Noctilux. Really recommended if you like its character, but be sure to bring another lens for landscapes.

 

Hope this helps.

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The Noctilux, to Leica, is quite simply a prestige lens. It enhances the brand image. If it did not exist, very few people would ask for it, and I cannot think it makes much, or any money for Leica Camera.

 

A 35mm Noctilux would only marginally increase the prestige, and it would be as difficult to manufacture as the 50mm Nocti, so it would not make any money either. So I don't believe we will see it.

 

The old man from the Age of the 35mm Summilux ASPH

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the front diameter of the 35 noctilux would need to be HUGE (much larger than current 50 noct.) 50mm is 'standard' not just for its focal length, but also, the lens formula for 50mm is the least complicated. adding a stop to the 35 lux while trying to retain a moderate size would be a great optical challenge.

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On paper the front lens element would have to be a trifling 35 mm (35/35 = 1 interestingly), so it could be smaller that the 50/0.95.

 

"on paper", indeed... :o would be it so simple, we had rather compact Summilux 21/24, but they are not... ;)

Anyway, imho a decent approximation is the size of the CV 35 1,2... a f1 lens, made by Leica, cannot be smaller than it, very probably larger....0,5 to 1 cm more of diameter, just as an idea...

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On paper the front lens element would have to be a trifling 35 mm (35/35 = 1 interestingly), so it could be smaller that the 50/0.95.

The size of the front element does not depend only on the maximum aperture but also on the position (i. e. distance from the front element) of the entry pupil and the angle-of-view. A deeper entry pupil and a wider angle-of-view means a wider front element. For a 35 mm 1:1 lens, the front element's width might be 35 mm only when the entry pupil was located right at the front element (i. e. a depth of zero). In real life, the front elements of wide-angle lenses usually are much wider than their entry pupils.

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if one could do a 35 0.95 then its leica.. bet they would make it large and heavy but with stunningly wide open performance... and so many ppl got the 0.95 so I bet it would sell like the old one.. quick and easy

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