johannespiritu Posted April 9, 2012 Share #1 Â Posted April 9, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) My M9 went to Schmidt Marketing in HK (the closest offical distributor) for a sensor cleaning (first time in over a year of use) and it was discovered that the coating on the CCD has peeled off at one of the corners. Â Has anyone else had this happen to their M9? I'm assuming this is covered by the warranty (I hope I'm right) as I am still within the two year warranty period (M9 purchased on Aug 2010). Â They also told me that the CCD's are out of stock at Leica Germany? Anyone have news on this? Is this true? Â Thanks in advance for any information! Â Best regards, Â Johann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Hi johannespiritu, Take a look here is the m9p ccd sensor out of stock? (merged thread). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest Holy Moly Posted April 9, 2012 Share #2  Posted April 9, 2012 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/230243-m9-sensor-repair-three-months-still.html  http://findingrange.com/2012/03/30/my-leica-m9-at-leica-nj-for-crack-sensor/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannespiritu Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share #3 Â Posted April 10, 2012 Thanks for the links. I have contacted both Solms and HK and hope to get more info on this. I will post an update (hopefully a good one!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 10, 2012 Share #4 Â Posted April 10, 2012 Of course there can be hiccups in the parts supply. Leica are selling about three times the number of M9 cameras over the projected number, so orders have to be upgraded to higher numbers, and as Leica is but a small customer, suppliers have to fit the extra production into niches in their production planning. However, the turnaround time on repairs is mostly decent to very good nowadays. Except, it appears from posts in this forum, for repairs running through Schmidt..... If the general corporate structure of Leica is anything to go by, Schmidt is most probably a separate identity and responsible for their own subcompany, including ordering and stock control of spare parts. It is the same for Leica USA, Leica Mayfair and Customer Service Solms. For instance if a Leica UK Passport repair is done in Solms, CS Solms will bill Leica UK. This construction was chosen to safeguard the maintenance of Leica products inn a time that the survival of the company as a whole appeared to be doubtful, to say the least. So if Schmidt is responsible for their own spare parts stock, it is not surprising that the odd porky or slightly coloured truth pops up from time to time if something goes wrong. After all we are all human. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobitybob Posted April 10, 2012 Share #5 Â Posted April 10, 2012 More on this over at Leica News & Rumours. Â Seems to have spread to the USA as well, may be more general than the odd porky! Â http://leicarumors.com/2012/04/10/shortage-of-leica-m9-sensors.aspx/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannespiritu Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share #6 Â Posted April 10, 2012 UPDATE: Â I contacted Leica in Solms to confirm the CDD stock problem. I got a quick reply saying that the CCDs are indeed out of stock, but should arrive "any day now". They said they would send them to HK right away so that they could replace my sensor - under warranty! Hurrah! Â Still keeping my fingers crossed that this is fixed soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 10, 2012 Share #7 Â Posted April 10, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, it is certainly an odd porky. "Because there is a sensor shortage cameras needing a sensor repair were replaced with new cameras"...:confused: Are new cameras built without using sensors then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 10, 2012 Share #8  Posted April 10, 2012 UPDATE: I contacted Leica in Solms to confirm the CDD stock problem. I got a quick reply saying that the CCDs are indeed out of stock, but should arrive "any day now". They said they would send them to HK right away so that they could replace my sensor - under warranty! Hurrah!  Still keeping my fingers crossed that this is fixed soon! Good for you  As I said - supply has hiccups because of high demand... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALD Posted April 10, 2012 Share #9 Â Posted April 10, 2012 I doubt that any new m9 are being made,I suggest that the Leica m10 is being produced en masse already and that Leica knew when to produce it as orders dropped for the m9 and stock built up. The new Nikon and canon have just been released and so Leica needs to upgrade or be left behind. May 10 is M10 and if you want one go place deposits with your camera store because this Leica is going to be exceptionally special and will be marketed excellently. Leica knew that everybody would link m10 with the date and they are a professional bunch so would not tease people otherwise. The m9 is a three year old dinosaur that does not yet take as good pictures as film and the sensor on it does not match the capability of the new lenses in the m system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted April 10, 2012 Share #10  Posted April 10, 2012 A comment from the same Leica Rumors Story from Tomasz Jeruzalem:  I received this e-mail from Leica Service: “Unfortunately, we do not have the spare part needed to repair your M9. The new sensor boards are expected to arrive sometime next week.  So, a one week delay and everyone is in a panic. Honestly, it's not the first time Schmidt has left customers in a bind. They probably only order spare sensor as needed, and keep no stock on hand. Better for profits... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted April 10, 2012 Share #11 Â Posted April 10, 2012 I doubt that any new m9 are being made,I suggest that the Leica m10 is being produced en masse already and that Leica knew when to produce it as orders dropped for the m9 and stock built up. The new Nikon and canon have just been released and so Leica needs to upgrade or be left behind. May 10 is M10 and if you want one go place deposits with your camera store because this Leica is going to be exceptionally special and will be marketed excellently. Leica knew that everybody would link m10 with the date and they are a professional bunch so would not tease people otherwise. The m9 is a three year old dinosaur that does not yet take as good pictures as film and the sensor on it does not match the capability of the new lenses in the m system. Â Nonsense. I know you are desperate for an M9 at the price of a Fuji X100...but don't hold your breath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 10, 2012 Share #12 Â Posted April 10, 2012 I'm with Bill on this. Â It seems to me that ALD doesn't really know what he wants. One day waiting for an M9, next day, it's an embarrassing dinosaour and only an M10 will do. Â Yet, he also knows that the M10 will be released on May 10th and will be exceptionally special - which is something that others have only speculated about. Â This is what happens when you get all your news from rumour sites - all you hear are rumours, most of which go round and round, back to the same source. Â My advice to ALD would be to sell the new 35mm lens that he has aquired and put the money into a Canon or Nikon system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted April 10, 2012 Share #13 Â Posted April 10, 2012 I'm with Bill on this. Â It seems to me that ALD doesn't really know what s/he wants. One day waiting for an M9, next day, it's an embarrassing dinosaour and only an M10 will do. Â Yet, s/he also knows that the M10 will be released on May 10th and will be exceptionally special - which is something that others have only speculated about. Â This is what happens when you get all your news from rumour sites - all you hear are rumours, most of which go round and round, back to the same source. Â My advice to ALD would be to sell the new 35mm lens that s/he has aquired and put the money into a Canon or Nikon system. Â We shouldn't play with the troll... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted April 10, 2012 Share #14 Â Posted April 10, 2012 I would suggest that Ald is nearer to the truth. Why would Leica run out of sensors for the M9 soon after the they send out a notice about an announcement for May 10th. Judging from this forum about a small number of users who have issues with the sensor, the sensor should be a stock item. Â Sometimes 2 + 2 does equal 4 or to put it another way, 9 + 1 = 10. Â If I am right, whats the bet that the price will be 7 + 1 = 8k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 10, 2012 Share #15 Â Posted April 10, 2012 Sheesh - a one week delay in sensor boards supply and Leica is going to the dogs in a fiery apocalypse... It is more like adding 1+1 and arriving at 200... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted April 10, 2012 Share #16 Â Posted April 10, 2012 The m9 is a three year old dinosaur that does not yet take as good pictures as film and the sensor on it does not match the capability of the new lenses in the m system. Â I very rarely express myself as bluntly as this but what a load of dross. Â That comment demonstrates your limited capability to take good pictures rather than the capability of the M9, it's sensor and lenses (leaving aside high-ISO performance and that probably no camera sensor exceeds the capability of the good Leica lenses). Why do you think your pictures will be 'more exceptionally special' with an M10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 10, 2012 Share #17 Â Posted April 10, 2012 I doubt that any new m9 are being made,I suggest that the Leica m10 is being produced en masse already and that Leica knew when to produce it as orders dropped for the m9 and stock built up. The new Nikon and canon have just been released and so Leica needs to upgrade or be left behind. May 10 is M10 and if you want one go place deposits with your camera store because this Leica is going to be exceptionally special and will be marketed excellently. Leica knew that everybody would link m10 with the date and they are a professional bunch so would not tease people otherwise. The m9 is a three year old dinosaur that does not yet take as good pictures as film and the sensor on it does not match the capability of the new lenses in the m system. Â Ummm..I am stumped for words by this post. Wait a minute - I just found two - arrant nonsense... Â Even if an M10 should be announced in a few weeks time it will only become available in October or later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted April 10, 2012 Share #18 Â Posted April 10, 2012 I doubt that any new m9 are being made,I suggest that the Leica m10 is being produced en masse already and that Leica knew when to produce it as orders dropped for the m9 and stock built up. I suggest you are utterly wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted April 10, 2012 Share #19 Â Posted April 10, 2012 They are two different concerns / issues : Â - Availability of M9 IN CASE it has to be replaced by a new model - Availability of SPARE parts (sensors) for M9, which is a lot UNrelated, in industrial terms, with the above question. Â About the first, it surely can be that, IF a "next M" is soon to be announced, Leica is planning with care the switchover, controlling and managing with attention the stock available in the channel, tuning the production of current M9-P... all the typical processes that any manufacturer must manage when the replacement of a certain product is scheduled. Â About the second , it seems (see other threads about) that a certain shortage of spare sensors is there, or has happened recently... and let's not forget that some changover in the factory that makes them has been also in course (it passed from Kodak to another Company) ; not a rare event in today tech industry... and we must live with it... they aren't anymore the times when a smart and well equipped lab could quickly fix your M4 without any "dependence" from external sources, but depending 99% by the skill of their people... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 10, 2012 Share #20 Â Posted April 10, 2012 I suggest you are utterly wrong. Â Â Are you the same MJH that writes for LFI? Â [sotto voce: I know that you are...] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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