flavio Posted February 23, 2007 Share #1 Posted February 23, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just got back my first slide rolls shot with M 21 f:3.4 Super Angulon and I can't shut down my mouth and eyes because the amazement . It is really a great lens, crystal clear resolution, colour rendering. Almost a 3D. I think it will remain on my M4 for many week as a astandard lens. Great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lars_bergquist Posted February 23, 2007 Share #2 Posted February 23, 2007 Just got back my first slide rolls shot with M 21 f:3.4 Super Angulon and I can't shut down my mouth and eyes because the amazement . It is really a great lens, crystal clear resolution, colour rendering. Almost a 3D.I think it will remain on my M4 for many week as a astandard lens. Great! That lens was long regarded as one of the best of all Leica M lenses (though it was of course a Schneider design). I have its successor, the 1980 Elmarit, and this is even better. I have in fact never felt the attraction of an ASPH, though the 60 mm filter thread is really pretty large. On the M8 this lens is equivalent to a 28 only, but the loss of the edges and corners does of course nothing to degrade the performance! Really, many older M lenses do offer sterling image quality. The improvements of later lenses may well be impossible to discern in practical work. After all, we take few of our photos on optical benches in laboratories. The difference between a Super Angulon and an Elmarit ASPH may be invisible as long as you shoot offhand, and stop down a bit. The old man from the Age of the Box Camera Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_6 Posted February 23, 2007 Share #3 Posted February 23, 2007 hi flavio, so happy that u have put the lense to great use. would u like to share some of your nice shots here... Dennis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 23, 2007 Share #4 Posted February 23, 2007 Just got back my first slide rolls shot with M 21 f:3.4 Super Angulon and I can't shut down my mouth and eyes because the amazement . It is really a great lens, crystal clear resolution, colour rendering. Almost a 3D.I think it will remain on my M4 for many week as a astandard lens. Great! Flavio, I am more and more happy for You, because I hade a little part in helping You to take this fantastic lens: it is superbe, really; I go sometimes (rarely) with a single lens on M4, and is the 35 Summilux, but if take two or three, one is ALWAYS the Super Angulon 21 3,4; is the reason for I put a question on this forum, if someone has used it on M8 (it is usable but with no metering, Leica says): if someone will post a picture taken with this lens on M8, well, I think this can be the decisive push for me to buy an M8: do not want to renounce to my SA 3,4! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oculus_ny Posted February 24, 2007 Share #5 Posted February 24, 2007 FWIW, I keep my 21 ASPH mounted all the time on my M6ttl. I just like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavio Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted February 24, 2007 Ciao Luigi, its true. Your advise and your hunt for the Super Angulon on the net shops were a decisive step to get it. Thanks again. It is a precious jewel and would like to use it with a Kodachrome 25 or 64. In few minutes I'll go out on the field with my M4, the Super Angulon and a Velvia. Read you later. Flavio Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalle Posted February 25, 2007 Share #7 Posted February 25, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Flavio, I nearly feel all the same as you. I use the 21 Super Angulon 4/21 and lately the Elmarit 2,8/21 in most of the time with my M 2. M2, Super Angulon, f: 4/21; 8; 1/125, Kodak VR 400 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Kalle Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Kalle ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/16996-is-there-any-m-21mm-lovers-club/?do=findComment&comment=182582'>More sharing options...
Guest Bernd Banken Posted February 25, 2007 Share #8 Posted February 25, 2007 Flavio, let's help you: in the german forum there is a thread about the M8 with 21mm lens: Pls. follow the link: http://www.leica-camera-user.com/architektur/14844-prag-mit-m8.html Bernd Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavio Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted February 25, 2007 Hi Bernd and Kalle, thanks for sharing your view and photos. Asap I'll do the same, since I have to put them on a cd. I am not able to read german language, but Leica language is universally known. On an M8 it become a 27.3 mm. Right? I hope to create a real 21 mm fans club, no? What a great lens! I'm looking forward to use with a Kodachrome. Ciao! Flavio Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallhu Posted February 26, 2007 Share #10 Posted February 26, 2007 ...I hope to create a real 21 mm fans club, no? What a great lens!... Ciao! Flavio Hi Flavio! I enjoy wide angle photographie too! Greetings Kallhu Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 26, 2007 Share #11 Posted February 26, 2007 Hi Bernd and Kalle,thanks for sharing your view and photos. Asap I'll do the same, since I have to put them on a cd. I am not able to read german language, but Leica language is universally known. On an M8 it become a 27.3 mm. Right? I hope to create a real 21 mm fans club, no? What a great lens! I'm looking forward to use with a Kodachrome. Ciao! Flavio Uhm, the so called "crop factor" of M8 is 1,33333 (CCD 18x27 mm, same proportions as 24x36 so 36/27=1,3333....) So a 21 on M8 covers the field of a 28 (21 + 21/3) on film Leica: for all the focal lengths exactly divisible by 3 is very easy to do the computation at once (90=120, 75=100) 135=180) 35 ca. 47.... 50 ca. 67...: to have the good old 50 standard would require a 37,5 mm lens... not available... This is the only picture taken with the 21 3,4 I have on my PC (roughly scanned...print is better...): Paris, autumn 06, M4 + 21, sun in difficult position (behind the trees...) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/16996-is-there-any-m-21mm-lovers-club/?do=findComment&comment=183477'>More sharing options...
NickR Posted February 26, 2007 Share #12 Posted February 26, 2007 Yes, the 21/3.4 is a great lens. My personal favorite and has become the "normal" lens on my M6. It's probably the reason I'll never buy an M8; it doesn't fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hagen Posted February 26, 2007 Share #13 Posted February 26, 2007 I love my pre ASPH 2,8/21 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/16996-is-there-any-m-21mm-lovers-club/?do=findComment&comment=183537'>More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 26, 2007 Share #14 Posted February 26, 2007 Yes, the 21/3.4 is a great lens. My personal favorite and has become the "normal" lens on my M6. It's probably the reason I'll never buy an M8; it doesn't fit. Take note: you can USE it on M8: if you read the M8 user manual (available on Leica site) it states clearly that our beloved Super Angulon 21 3,4 can be used on M8, but exposure metering does not work: not a great problem, after all... You have an M6, ok, but I have an M4...and do not have Leicameter for esthetic considerations... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 26, 2007 Share #15 Posted February 26, 2007 I love my pre ASPH 2,8/21 Compliments, splendid picture Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallhu Posted February 26, 2007 Share #16 Posted February 26, 2007 I love my pre ASPH 2,8/21 I like mine too! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/16996-is-there-any-m-21mm-lovers-club/?do=findComment&comment=183712'>More sharing options...
Philippe D. Posted February 26, 2007 Share #17 Posted February 26, 2007 Just got back my first slide rolls shot with M 21 f:3.4 Super Angulon and I can't shut down my mouth and eyes because the amazement +1 and i like the Elmarit Asph too, both of them have there intime personality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickR Posted February 26, 2007 Share #18 Posted February 26, 2007 Take note: you can USE it on M8: if you read the M8 user manual (available on Leica site) it states clearly that our beloved Super Angulon 21 3,4 can be used on M8, but exposure metering does not work: not a great problem, after all... You have an M6, ok, but I have an M4...and do not have Leicameter for esthetic considerations... I just checked and I think you're right. Although the salesman in the camera store was pretty adament about not using it for risk of damage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavio Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share #19 Posted February 26, 2007 I think its a personal taste or choice. I like my Leica M4 with Leicameter very much. Of course I cannot use it with the Super Angulon and 21 mm Viewer, when I use my great Weston Master V. The red one. No battery on my bag. Sometime I also use the Weston Ranger n. 9. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted February 27, 2007 Share #20 Posted February 27, 2007 I just checked and I think you're right. Although the salesman in the camera store was pretty adament about not using it for risk of damage. I checked my M8 manual. It says that the Super Angulon lenses (both of them!) can be used, but without metering. The 'spherical' Elmarit, which I use, is also a lovely lens -- except for the 60 mm filter size, of course. The old man from the Age of Meterless Photography Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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