jaapv Posted December 30, 2011 Share #1 Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Being to old to notice any shutterlag under 0.1 seconds, I did a search on the Internet for the figures for a few cameras. These are the best I found. Has anybody got more information? M3 - 12 ms M6 - 25 ms M7 - 50 ms Canon 1D series -60 ms s M8/9 90 ms All of these would have no impact on decisive-moment shooting I think. On a sidenote - the start-up time of my M9 seems to have shortened on firmware 1.17x. The viewfinder LEDs appear almost instantly on switch-on now. Edited December 30, 2011 by jaapv decapitalized Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jippiejee Posted December 30, 2011 Share #2 Posted December 30, 2011 Megaseconds?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted December 30, 2011 You're completely right - that would be the Digilux2 with AF switched on;). Megas to millis - edited, thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted December 30, 2011 Share #4 Posted December 30, 2011 should be "ms" - m = is milli, M is mega, only nine orders of magnitude off:D Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted December 30, 2011 Share #5 Posted December 30, 2011 On a sidenote - the start-up time of my M9 seems to have shortened on firmware 1.17x. The viewfinder LEDs appear almost instantly on switch-on now. First, instantly, the LED on the back and then the viewfinder LEDs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted December 30, 2011 should be "ms" - m = is milli, M is mega, only nine orders of magnitude off:DSure - I corrected it, but somehow the forum reverted to the original post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted December 30, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) First, instantly, the LED on the back and then the viewfinder LEDs Yes - and it used to take about 0.7 seconds for the viewfinder LEDs before. It appears to be much faster now. Or I have slowed down over the last few weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
perb Posted December 30, 2011 Share #8 Posted December 30, 2011 M3 - 12 ms M6 - 25 ms M7 - 50 ms M8/9 90 ms This mostly matches what Stefan Daniel is supposed to have said: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/98243-m9-shutter-lag-7.html#post1071867 Regards Per Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share #9 Posted December 30, 2011 Of course, the whole moral of this story is to learn the art of anticipation. With lags in this order I feel that is wholly subconscious and will come with a bit of experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted December 30, 2011 Share #10 Posted December 30, 2011 Of course, the whole moral of this story is to learn the art of anticipation. With lags in this order I feel that is wholly subconscious and will come with a bit of experience. As long as the lag is consistent one can learn to allow for it, and quick feedback from chimping is a tremendous help when doing so. The other moral, unfortunately, is that we have to stop claiming that rangefinder cameras have shorter shutter lags than SLRs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share #11 Posted December 30, 2011 Well, nothing new there, the Canon 1V had 55 ms. This page mentions quite a few for (older) popular digicams: Different Shutter Lags for Different Cameras Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 30, 2011 Share #12 Posted December 30, 2011 Of course, the whole moral of this story is to learn the art of anticipation. With lags in this order I feel that is wholly subconscious and will come with a bit of experience. I agree. However, living 90ms in the future is not easy when the shot is not susceptible to panning. I've an example in my First Album. Second thinking the staged shutter release mode - it seems to give me some kind of tactical clue as to where I am in the act of exposure. It might be all in my mind - but where else could it be? We rangefinder users also have no mirror black-out. Of course, a DSLR user can shoot with both eyes open, but how many do that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share #13 Posted December 30, 2011 But I do find that the soft release mode on the M9 is a boon. Actually, when I am shooting I get the feeling that I only have to think "click" for the camera to go `click` without any sensation of pushing the shutter button. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted December 31, 2011 Share #14 Posted December 31, 2011 Thanks. I’ve never used it…. I will now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted January 1, 2012 Share #15 Posted January 1, 2012 You're completely right - that would be the Digilux2 with AF switched on;). Megas to millis - edited, thanks Oh so I have a Mega9. Excellent But for these shutterlag numbers to be decisive you have to have camera to eye, focused, framed, part pressure on the shutter release and zero mental, nerve and muscle lag. Don't you bump into walls walking round all tightly coiled like that! What about when you are trying to sip your beer or bite off some bratwurst? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Old Dog Posted January 1, 2012 Share #16 Posted January 1, 2012 I didn't see where we are talking about Auto mode or Manual mode which should be much faster. DSLRs dealing with focusing as well should generally be slower I would think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share #17 Posted January 1, 2012 Oh so I have a Mega9. Excellent But for these shutterlag numbers to be decisive you have to have camera to eye, focused, framed, part pressure on the shutter release and zero mental, nerve and muscle lag. Don't you bump into walls walking round all tightly coiled like that! What about when you are trying to sip your beer or bite off some bratwurst? Very nasty to remove from the lens, Bratwurst grease, except if you slosh beer foam over it. Then it wipes off easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted January 3, 2012 Share #18 Posted January 3, 2012 M3 - 12 ms (...) M8/9 90 ms This makes me smile. /p Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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