stickyfingers Posted February 20, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted February 20, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Am new to Leica but am buying it for a friend so what are your thoughts on the D lux 3? Or are there better digital cams out there? Â Do you know where I can buy it from on the net? Â Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftabulis Posted February 20, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted February 20, 2007 I have one, and when shooting in raw mode, there is no better camera for your money. Some will agree and some will disagree but I own a dlux3 and use it almost everyday because I love the feel, features and overall quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted February 21, 2007 Share #3 Â Posted February 21, 2007 I own a DLux3, as well as an M8, and some Canon DSLRs and some Canon P&S. I have also owned Nikon & other P&S cameras too. Â I like the DLux-3 a lot. The only two things that really bug me are the lockout time after taking a shot - while it writes the JPG & RAW files to the card and the fact that it does save both JPG and RAW to the card when shooting in RAW mode. There does not appear to be any way to disable the JPG file. Â Now, having said all this, I have no doubt that there are cameras out there that are better than the DLux-3 on any one feature you choose to name, but few are as good as an overall package. Â I almost always carry my DLux-3 around with me - even when I take the M8. There are times when the DLux-3 is more appropriate for the task in hand Also, I love the wide screen mode - so much that I stopped using the Canon P&S. Of course the wide scree mode (16:9) does not match printer paper sizes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted February 21, 2007 Share #4  Posted February 21, 2007 Am new to Leica but am buying it for a friend so what are your thoughts on the D lux 3? Or are there better digital cams out there? Do you know where I can buy it from on the net?  Thanks  Katerina............ can I be your friend.......pluuuueeezzze ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par70 Posted February 21, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted February 21, 2007 I had a Dlux 3...and sold it....Got a G7...I know...no RAW...but I find the G7 much better.... The images right out of the camera JPEG are much sharper....(I found the dlux images soft) even the RAW ones.. Â The flash is much better.. The pictures at iso 200,400,and 800 are much ,much better.... The camera controls are better... Â I miss the 16x9.... and the look of the dlux.......but thats all... Â Another thing...I have a sick love for LEICA ...and was so dissapointed...... but truth be told...the G7 is better... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted February 21, 2007 Share #6  Posted February 21, 2007 As it really depends what you do with the camera, opinions without knowing about what the writer uses the camera for are not very useful. For example, for someone who prints at less 1/2 of A4 size, or 4x6s or 5x7s there is no need for RAW capability.  I print very large — as large as 100x133cm (40x52 inches) in B&W with my Ricoh GR-D — and for that I need a camera that produces RAW files. I'm quite happy with the D-Lux 3 as well.  —Mitch/Bangkok Flickr: Photos from Mitch Alland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par70 Posted February 21, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted February 21, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mitch... I knew you'd post next... Â I have a question for you... have you owned or experimented with a G7 ? Â And...Do you print large from just the GR-D...or with the Dlux too...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dspeltz Posted February 21, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted February 21, 2007 I have the DLux2 and it is superb. I also have the M8. and various other Ms and Hasselblad digitals. the delux is a wonderful camera that takes great pics that can be sized large. Go for it. the glass is great and whether it is a 2 or 3 you cannot go wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted February 21, 2007 Share #9  Posted February 21, 2007 Michael:  I've made no aspersions on the G7, as I know nothing about it except that it has no RAW capability — and I know that to make prints as large as 100x133cm (40x52 inches) I need RAW files. That is all I was saying.  —Mitch/Bangkok http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par70 Posted February 21, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted February 21, 2007 Mitch... Didn't say you did... You mentioned those two cameras...I just wanted to know what you thought of the G7..i know you need RAW... Just wondering how you thought it measured up since you had exp with the other two... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted February 21, 2007 Share #11  Posted February 21, 2007 Michael:  Unfortunately I only have experience with the GR-D and the D-Lux 3. The problem I have is using two camares of the same type of format with different controls, which can be very confusing. Also, shooting RAW the long recording time on the GR-D never bothered me before, but, now, when I switch from the D-Lux 3, which records RAW files in 1/3rd the time, the GR-D feels like it takes forever, although it isn't important to me for the type of photography I do.  Actually, I'd prefer having a fixed 40-50mm-equivalent lens camera to the D-Lux 3.  —Mitch/Bangkok Flickr: Photos from Mitch Alland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted February 21, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted February 21, 2007 I owned the Dlux-3 and sold it. I also have the M8. I liked the looks and small size of the D3 and its 28mm 16x9 shooting but I was dissapointed in several aspects. First, far too many shots taken with the auto focus were soft or out of focus like the camera slected a different focus point from the one I thought it was using (even when I selected spot focusing). I tried various focusing modes and in low light it was as likely to be wrong as right. The flash is very anemic and would either be too weak if you were very far from the subject or it would overpower the subject if you were too close. Every file seemed to require some post processing to get the best out of it. For me, not having an optical view finder made it very hard to use in low light and at ISO 400 and above it is very noisy (true for many small sensor cameras). On the plus side were size, build quality, color rendition, RAW, manual modes and wide angle. I haven't tried the G7 and the new Nikon P5000 looks interesting but I can't honestly recommend the Dlux-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par70 Posted February 21, 2007 Share #13 Â Posted February 21, 2007 Mitch... Â Thanks... You know that I was unhappy with the D lux 3...I now have a G7...I like it...but miss RAW...and It also has faults...for me..it is better than the D-Lux 3..but I am still looking for a better P&S....I guess it doesnt exist yet..I hope to find one that works for me for now and I would love to get another Leica P&S if they correct some of the noise removal issues... The G7 is much heavier and its bigger than the Dlux....but the controls and JPEG images..are very good...I know that wouldnt work for you..but it does help compare the two cameras... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_w_davies Posted February 21, 2007 Share #14 Â Posted February 21, 2007 The G7 and D-lux 3 were compared in the British Journal of Photography a couple of weeks ago. They preferred the D-lux 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andit Posted February 21, 2007 Share #15 Â Posted February 21, 2007 Hi Katerina, Â It all depends on what your friend intends to photograph. While I'm probably going to get "shot" here on the forum for saying this, why not look at the C-Lux 1. It is a great little camera for daily shooting, produces great colours and smooth looking files. It does have its limitations. I have retired my Canon Ixus 40 (Digital Elph in the US) and now make use of the C-Lux 1 (I find that I'm also using my Canon DSLR less and less). I can assure you that I'll still carry the C-Lux 1 with me when my M8 finally arrives (hey its only 5 weeks to go!). Â Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted February 21, 2007 Share #16  Posted February 21, 2007 It is a great little camera for daily shooting, produces great colours and smooth looking filesActually, the whole point of this thread is specifically not a search for "smooth files". Look at the thread's title. Sean Reid's posting above is pretty much to the point. But, then Katerina's posting would have been more appropriate, and would receive more replies, in a separate thread. —Mitch/Bangkok Flickr: Photos from Mitch Alland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 21, 2007 Share #17 Â Posted February 21, 2007 Mitch, I'm puzzled. Katerina's message _is_ in it's own thread and the title makes no reference to smoothness of the images. Plus Sean hasn't posted a response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par70 Posted February 21, 2007 Share #18 Â Posted February 21, 2007 Mitch... Â You got your threads mixed up... Â Sean has a separate posting called On the road again.... Â Take another look... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted February 21, 2007 Share #19  Posted February 21, 2007 Ugh, a thousand pardons. I came back from dinner and started reading the wrong thread — and I wasn't even drunk. The postings I referred were certainly appropriate. Sorry again. I feel like a twit.  —Mitch/Bangkok http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickyfingers Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share #20 Â Posted February 21, 2007 thanks guys for all your feedback. its been really helpful reading through and helping me assess the camera. i shall keep looking into it and probably will go check it out at a shop next week if time permits. but from what you've all said it seems like a good camera..although some of you may disagree.... Â Kat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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