Leitax users - consider the "ante" well and truly "upped" - D800 specs

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No offence intended either, just a little light-hearted banter:).

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[AB007]

D800 + R lenses beat other medium formats?

 

Hmmmm! Very tempting but I'll wait.

 

I love my D3s with my 90/2.8, 100/2.8 and 280/4 or my trusty D300 with my old 50/2.

 

I love Nikons too

[billib]

Just pre-ordered the D800. Didn't order the "E" version.

I figure why pay 10% more for it w/o a filter. If I don't

like what I see then I'll pay ($300 ?) to have it removed.

I can have it put back if necessary. If you ordered an

"E" version you can't put back what was never their.

 

Any way, I figure I can use it with lenses that don't

work on the M. I recently dipped my toe into the Leitax

waters and purchased a Vario-Elmar-R 28-70mm f/3.5/4.5.

I've removed the Leica bayonet mount and I might have

bitten off more than I can chew. No one has done this lens

before so no pictures. I wonder it you can send Leitax a

box full of lens parts?

 

Andy, did you do you own Leica R-Lens conversions

to the Leitax mount?

[Jaybob]

Though not full frame & only 2.4MP, Nikon D1H very weak AA filter & big pixels

which give analogue like oh so smooth tonal gradations

imo will give more pleasing output than the clinically digital 36MP chopped up monsters.

 

EXACTLY...

 

I thought I was the only one who felt that way about the D1H!

 

As far as Nikons go, I prefer the 12 megapixel D3. While the idea of the $3,299.95 D800E appealing in a certain way (who doesn't want MORE?) this is a product cycle I will more than likely skip. I don't shoot video, and I'm pretty sure I'll run out of hard drive storage space in 6 months or watch my blu-ray budget explode saving files that are 3 times the size of my (IMHO) too big already NEFs.

 

My 135 2.8 R is already pretty happy on the NEX.

 

Jay

[andybarton]

Andy, did you do you own Leica R-Lens conversions

to the Leitax mount?

 

All of my R lenses (bar the 19mm with the ruined front element) are Leitaxed and they work extremely well with the D700. The zooms are much more problematical to change and I believe that David Lado doesn't recommend that they are.

 

I currently have a 28 Elmarit-R (always on the D700), a 60 Macro-Elmarit-R, a 90 Summicron-R and a 250 Tele-Elmarit converted to Nikon mounts. The only slightly tricky one to do was the 60, but that one I left 'til last and it took about 15 minutes to do, as opposed to 5 minutes for the rest. It really is very simple, even if the lenses have ROM chips fitted (as my 28 did). The 60 has a plastic shroud internally that needs to be removed - it's just a fiddle to get it past some of the internal workings.

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Just pre-ordered the D800. Didn't order the "E" version.

I figure why pay 10% more for it w/o a filter. If I don't

like what I see then I'll pay ($300 ?) to have it removed.

I can have it put back if necessary. If you ordered an

"E" version you can't put back what was never their...............

 

I don't disagree with your reasoning, but I wonder if it might not be as easy as that. Nikon's D800E page says

 

"Modified to deliver unprecedented sharpness, its 36.3 megapixel FX-format sensor features an optical low pass filter with anti-aliasing properties removed." (my bold)

 

So I wonder if the AA bit of the OLPF is separate or somehow integral to the design such that it can't be removed or replaced? It would be nice if it were as you say, but then why two separate models rather than a factory/dealer fit option? Who knows, perhaps Nikon just prefer it that way for logistical and marketing reasons.

[billib]

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Thank you for the reply Andy! It doesn't look like

Rocket Science. I had converted a 135mm f/2.8

a while back and it was easy. I had to grind off

one of the cams. This Zoom looks a little tougher.

Right now I can't get it to open its aperture when

its back together. I think I have the spring set

wrong. I MUST have the spring set wrong.

Any way, I'll look at it in a couple of days.

 

Thanks!!!

[delander †]

There is an explanation and diagram on Rob Galbraith's site of the different low pass filter

 

Jeff

[billib]

So I wonder if the AA bit of the OLPF is separate or somehow integral to the design such that it can't be removed or replaced? It would be nice if it were as you say, but then why two separate models rather than a factory/dealer fit option? Who knows, perhaps Nikon just prefer it that way for logistical and marketing reasons.

You may be right. Since photographers have their filters removed on

various cameras I'm assuming it can be done on the D800. Its possible

Nikon made it impossible in order to get us to buy the "E" version but

I rather doubt it.

[rickp13]

 

Any way, I figure I can use it with lenses that don't

work on the M. I recently dipped my toe into the Leitax

waters and purchased a Vario-Elmar-R 28-70mm f/3.5/4.5.

I've removed the Leica bayonet mount and I might have

bitten off more than I can chew. No one has done this lens

before so no pictures. I wonder it you can send Leitax a

box full of lens parts?

 

 

fyi, i sent my 35/70 f4 to david at leitax for a 'reversible' conversion to the nikon flange, and did the 180 f3.4 myself. if you have one of the more complicated lenses, it's probably worth contacting david (with photos of your box of parts :-)) to see if he can do the work. he kept me up to date on each step of the conversion, right up to mailing the completed lens with tracking number. for me, a no-worries adventure which i would gladly do again.

 

good luck

 

rick

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The info on Rob Galbraith's website (from Nikon's briefing) referred to by Jeff above seems to indicate that the D800E has a different OLPF design from that of the D800 (which has integral AA properties). Whether it will be possible to replace one with the other to turn a D800 into an 'E', or vice versa, isn't mentioned.

[billib]

fyi, i sent my 35/70 f4 to david at leitax for a 'reversible' conversion to the nikon flange, and did the 180 f3.4 myself. if you have one of the more complicated lenses, it's probably worth contacting david (with photos of your box of parts :-)) to see if he can do the work. he kept me up to date on each step of the conversion, right up to mailing the completed lens with tracking number. for me, a no-worries adventure which i would gladly do again.

 

good luck

 

rick

Thank you for such positive input. That was good to hear.

I'll have at it again but if I fail I'll give Leitax a try. As far as

having a box of parts, I don't. The lens is back together its

aperture just doesn't open up.

[billib]

The info on Rob Galbraith's website (from Nikon's briefing) referred to by Jeff above seems to indicate that the D800E has a different OLPF design from that of the D800 (which has integral AA properties). Whether it will be possible to replace one with the other to turn a D800 into an 'E', or vice versa, isn't mentioned.

I suspect their interchangeable however getting

the "E" filters will probably be the big problem.

[Overgaard]

Somehow it is interesting. I will be seeing a demo of it on monday, but have no Leitax glasses. Would be interesting to see how the 35-70/2.8 would perform on a 37 MP camera without AA filter

 

Then if one could fine a workshop that could remove all the buttons and put a shutter speed dial on top it would be nice.

[steveclem]

Then if one could fine a workshop that could remove all the buttons and put a shutter speed dial on top it would be nice.

 

 

[mmradman]

Somehow it is interesting. I will be seeing a demo of it on monday, but have no Leitax glasses. Would be interesting to see how the 35-70/2.8 would perform on a 37 MP camera without AA filter

 

 

I believe R 35-70 f2.8 can be fitted with Leitax F flange but be mindful as fixing holes are unique to that lens, besides David Llado is very helpful guy.

[AlanG]

You should also keep in mind that Canon has been introducing new lenses and updating others for some reason that most likely has to do with having a higher pixel count camera on the way.

 

And a 36MP FF Sony seems inevitable.

 

I seem to recall someone on this forum insisting that 36MP full frame cameras would never happen.

[stunsworth]

I seem to recall someone on this forum insisting that 36MP full frame cameras would never happen.

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/120654-video-mode-future-m-17.html#post1914802

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I am looking at the test shots and I must say... I'm not really over the moon about these.

 

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[andybarton]

Why?

 

Subject matter? Content? Resolution? Clarity? Overall quality? What?