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Leitax users - consider the "ante" well and truly "upped" - D800 specs

andybarton

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mgcd

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What's more important? How the camera looks, or the photographs that one can make with it?

 

Having been spoilt by Leica for over 30 years I would say both... That said if the specs are real then I would indeed get one.

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roydonian

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What's more important? How the camera looks, or the photographs that one can make with it?

 

The results are important, but for me so also is the method of attaining those results.

 

When I needed a new front door for my house, it had to be custom-made, since the house was built in a more informal age when things were often sized by eye rather than measured, and the door-frame did not match modern door sizes. The craftsman who made the new door uses Japanese tools for the finer parts of his work. These are rather different to their Western equivalents. For example, the saw cuts on the pull stroke, rather than the push stroke.

 

Using Japanese tools did not result in a better door, or reduce the time needed to make the door. But he assured me that it made the work more pleasurable for him.

 

Given the early teething troubles of the M8, I opted to use a Nikon D200 for two years. I had not had so much fun with a new camera since I watched my first 6 x 9 contact prints take form in the developing tray almost 60 years ago. Yet although well-designed, the D200 seemed a soulless device. For me, taking pictures with a Leica is much more pleasurable. Although not a very good photographer, I see the Leica as an instrument – as in Webster’s "a tool or implement, especially one used for delicate work or for scientific or artistic purposes", but the D200 seemed (to me) more like a power tool.

 

I still think back fondly to my first Leica (a black II purchased in the early 1960s) but I will no more miss my D200 than I miss my last dishwasher.

 

Best regards,

 

Doug

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I still think back fondly to my first Leica (a black II purchased in the early 1960s) but I will no more miss my D200 than I miss my last dishwasher.

 

Best regards,

 

Doug

 

I don't miss my D200 either, it was replaced by D700 long time ago.

 

Granted D700 is not M9 in terms of form factor but Leica has a long way to go catch up with Nikon in terms of product robustness and quality. Only problem with my three old D700 is rubber armour peeling but battery & sensor work like on day one. Besides D700 happily accommodates R lens something Leica is still to figure out how to satisfy its faithful clientele.

 

And before anyone rush to blind defence my MP (Mechanical Perfection) developed wobbly strap eyelet (something i never seen on any camera in over 30 years), luckily on the rewind crank side so camera still serves with the wrist strap.

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mmradman

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How about something like this, made to your order?

 

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We have sent humans to the Moon. This should not be a big technical problem, even if it costs about what the Apollo program cost. ;):eek::p

 

Interesting, try this link http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/nikonf2/accessories/ds12/

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d2mini

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Sigma Cum Laude Home page has said his photos were collages.

He has skill in his engineering of R mounts.

 

Have you any such engineering skills on offer.

 

Have you used SD9 with an R lens.

Foveon's film like design is well known.

R lenses were designed for film.

 

(The world has too many arm chair critics ... quite horrible).

 

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Though not full frame & only 2.4MP, Nikon D1H very weak AA filter & big pixels

which give analogue like oh so smooth tonal gradations

imo will give more pleasing output than the clinically digital 36MP chopped up monsters.

 

What on earth are you talking about? :confused:

 

The OP's link said "NikonRumors has unearthed the first images of the upcoming Nikon D800!"

 

And I'm saying those pics are fakes. Bad ones.

 

What does this have to do with engineering, R lenses, or Nikon D1H?

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andybarton

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It's official, and the specs were real.

 

Nikon D800 and D800E production mystery surfaces news - Amateur Photographer - news, camera reviews, lens reviews, camera equipment guides, photography courses, competitions, photography forums

 

Nikon Announces The D800 And Baby Does It Look Sweet!!!! | Scott Kelby's Photoshop Insider

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andybarton

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I would buy the one without the AA filter. There is a new moire slider in Lightroom 4, apparently and I wonder if the two are unrelated ;)

 

I am not in the market for a D800/E, but I do think that there will be some MF camera manufacturers out there who will have orders for these two in place already...

 

I am sure that this will have Leica scratching their heads about the S3.

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Thanks Andy.

 

There's just an extra few weeks of wait for the D800E as compared to the D800.

 

I will place an order today. Will be the first few to get one here. :)

 

Looking forward to shooting with it!

 

CJ

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CalArts 99

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Quite a bit of detail here: Nikon D800 Preview: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review

 

Amazon and B+H have both versions (AA and non-AA) on their websites for pre-order.

 

I agree with both sides: of course the form factor of Nikon DSLRs is no match for the M9, but on the other hand they are different beasts and serve different purposes. I have the D3s and it complements owning the M very nicely. There are plenty of times I want a full fame (100%) DSLR viewfinder and high ISO capabilities. Macro work is quite convenient with the Nikon, as is their CLS flash system.

 

I think the D800 will be a good option for those wanting to make large prints without going to MF and the expense it can involve. A moderate sized DSLR can be better ergonomically than a MF system. And of course, you now have the R lens and Zeiss lens options.

 

For those who held out in getting the D3x for a high pixel count camera, the D800 should do the trick. Along with the D3s and the Leica M system, one would be pretty well set up.

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I am sure that this will have Leica scratching their heads about the S3.

I think so, too. The S2’s main competitive advantage compared to Hasselblad, Pentax and PhaseOne is the combination of lens quality and portability – at very steep prices. Now Nikon releases MF-like resolution (without AA filter) in an even smaller package for a third of the Leica (more like a quarter of the price if you add lenses).

 

Question will be – do Nikkors deliver? And will Nikon add further lenses that work well enough at such resolutions to be interesting for MF users?

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Didn't someone say there'd never be a full frame DSLR with more than 22 mpx? He was pretty emphatic about it as I recall.

 

If I were in the market for an SLR - which I'm not - I think this would be top of the list.

 

Regarding the AA filter, the M8 has a very weak one and I only occasionally see moire. The filter in LR4 beta does a very good job of cleaning that up.

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luigi bertolotti

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Didn't someone say there'd never be a full frame DSLR with more than 22 mpx? He was pretty emphatic about it as I recall.

 

....

 

Surely someone said like this.... many years ago I attended a tech meeting hosted by IBM, in which one of their most respected speakers said that, for "reasons related to law of physics" a microprocessor with a clock over 100 Mhz will never be made... :D

 

(and one day William H. Gates III said that 640KB would be a RAM size well sufficient for "any application one can imagine for a Personal Computer") :D

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