Erik Gunst Lund Posted December 16, 2011 Share #41 Â Posted December 16, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just got the 28mm 2.8 Elmarit Asph, I prefer the small size and at 2.8 it has adequate DOF Â Sharp into the corners of M8u frame lines fits nicely and it goes nicely with 21/4, 40/2 & 90/3.5 Â The hood was a little annoying so it got a slit... Â Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarkP Posted December 16, 2011 Share #42 Â Posted December 16, 2011 I just got the 28mm 2.8 Elmarit Asph, I prefer the small size and at 2.8 it has adequate DOFÂ Sharp into the corners of M8u frame lines fits nicely and it goes nicely with 21/4, 40/2 & 90/3.5 Â The hood was a little annoying so it got a slit... Â Â I must say that I really don't find the increase in lens size from the 2.8 to 2.0 to be disconcerting but I don't use the original hood. Â Hoe did you cut that slit in the hood? I had been thinking of putting one in the hood of my 35 Summarit, exactly as is in my 35 Summilux and as you have cut. I've hesitated as it's metal. A drill and then the Dremel would probably do it but I'd then also have to paint the edges of the cut metal. May not be worthwhile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 16, 2011 Share #43  Posted December 16, 2011 For M8 users interested, the black anodized 12585 clip-on vented hood fits perfectly the Elmarit-M 28/2.8 asph. Doesn't cause vignetting on the M8 and blocks very little its viewfinder. Is is more efficient than the 12504 hood used on M8.2 White and Safari. None of those hoods can be reversed on the Elmarit 28 asph though. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/164964-28mm-f28-asph-vs-f2-asph/?do=findComment&comment=1873108'>More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted December 17, 2011 Share #44 Â Posted December 17, 2011 I must say that I really don't find the increase in lens size from the 2.8 to 2.0 to be disconcerting but I don't use the original hood. Â Hoe did you cut that slit in the hood? I had been thinking of putting one in the hood of my 35 Summarit, exactly as is in my 35 Summilux and as you have cut. I've hesitated as it's metal. A drill and then the Dremel would probably do it but I'd then also have to paint the edges of the cut metal. May not be worthwhile. Â I have 1.2 and a lot of 1.4 lenses for Nikon, and really a lot of experience shooting these in the 1.2 - 1.4 to 2.8 range... the DOF is so slim and on a rangefinder this is very difficult to handle, even on the top DSLR these are difficult to master. Â And since I can use the 28 Elmarit wide open at 2.8 and get sharp shots, I saw no need for the extra stop. Â Yes a Dremel did the job, a very fine grain needle file and you have the above, I have now finished the surface treatment with matt paint. Â Thanks for the metal hood reference 12585, I like the metal hoods (hate the Leica plastic hoods) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 17, 2011 Share #45 Â Posted December 17, 2011 Nothing easier to crash than these nice vented hoods though. The regular plastic hood # 12526 offers better mechanical protection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted December 17, 2011 Share #46 Â Posted December 17, 2011 Yes they are susceptible for crashing, since they only have three small flange parts. Â I like the tapered shape of the original plastic 28mm Elmarit Asph hood 12526 and yes it offers good sturdiness and protection, although it is plastic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 17, 2011 Share #47 Â Posted December 17, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Better get both then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted February 9, 2012 Share #48 Â Posted February 9, 2012 Has anyone with experience of the 28mm F2.8 on the M9 noticed a variation of colour across the frame? Magenta/Cyan? Â I'm considering the Elmarit for architecture - sharp, virtually distortion free - but have heard of colour issues. I've also been told that the Summicron has fewer colour issues. Â Any feedback would be warmly welcomed. Â Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matlep Posted February 9, 2012 Share #49  Posted February 9, 2012 Has anyone with experience of the 28mm F2.8 on the M9 noticed a variation of colour across the frame? Magenta/Cyan? I'm considering the Elmarit for architecture - sharp, virtually distortion free - but have heard of colour issues. I've also been told that the Summicron has fewer colour issues.  Any feedback would be warmly welcomed.  Thanks  I can't see any color issues with my Elmarit. The Summicron has heavier vignetting issues though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freusen Posted February 9, 2012 Share #50 Â Posted February 9, 2012 ............apart from upgrading the 90mm to the latest APO............ If I was you, I' ll upgrade to the Elmarit f2.8/90mm. ___________ FrankR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotharZhou Posted February 10, 2012 Share #51 Â Posted February 10, 2012 Exactly, 1.4/50 Summmilux ASPH and the 2.0/28 Summicron ASPH are my current setup. Â I would disagree with some of the others in that I think that the Summicron is an extraordinary lens and has benefits over the Elmarit way beyond the extra stop (which of course is very useful) . Some have referred to this as the 'best' Leica lens, which I thought was the usual crap until I started using it. Â I had the 2.8/28 Elmarit ASPH for my M9 for about 4 months, sold it for what it cost me, and bought a new 2.0/28 Summicron ASPH. Like Bartok I was new to 28mm but it has rapidly become one of my favourite focal lengths. Â I did not do a lens to lens comparison with the Elmarit, but the 2.0/28 Summicron ASPH photographs have a quality I don't see in those I shot with the 28 Elmarit. One may laugh but in fact I think there is a quality I don't see with any of my other Leica lenses (current 21/35/50 Summilux ASPHs, 2.0/75 Summicron, and 1.0/50 Noctilux), and like many lens qualities it isn't fully appreciable on the small low resolution images posted online. There is a clarity and life to the photographs (someone suggested in another thread perhaps due to the lens' microcontrast), and a beautiful delicate separation of subject with very gentle flow into the out of focus areas. I know this sounds like an emotive rather than a cold clinical description of the lens' results, but this is what I see and why I think some of my favourite photographs have been taken with this particular lens. Â In fact, if I could only keep two Leica lenses they would be the 1.4/50 Summmilux ASPH and the 2.0/28 Summicron ASPH. Â I would have no reservation in recommending you get the second-hand 28 Summicron over the Elmarit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf Posted February 10, 2012 Share #52 Â Posted February 10, 2012 Exactly, 1.4/50 Summmilux ASPH and the 2.0/28 Summicron ASPH are my current setup. Â In my mind the perfect setup! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted February 13, 2012 Share #53 Â Posted February 13, 2012 I'm rocking the 2/28 and 1.4/50 setup as well, and it's a lovely combo. On the long end I went with the 2,8/90 and 4/135 (latest). All share a 46mm filter size, which is a bonus, as they're all the same diameter (just different lengths essentially). I may or may not go for a 3,4/21 on the bottom end. Covers everything one could need. Â On the 2/28 I went with a cheap eBay metal vented hood (46mm) and plastic pinch cap (55mm). Problem solved - and not nearly as insane as the $400 Leica hood. LMAO... Â As for the old debate between Elmarit and Summicron, honestly? They're both awesome lenses. Either you need the speed or size - or you don't. Can't go wrong with either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40mm f/2 Posted February 13, 2012 Share #54 Â Posted February 13, 2012 I am quite content with my 28mm f2.8 ASPH: size, weight and optical quality- ideal for travel. It has less viewfinder blocking than the Summicron but a DIY cutout like in post # 41 would make even more of the subject visible. My question (in general) what about dust with any cut out lens hood? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantice Posted August 18, 2013 Share #55 Â Posted August 18, 2013 Has anyone know the conclusion of Diglloyd for the comparison of these two lenses? Â Is the reading for that article worth the subscription? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ananda Posted August 18, 2013 Share #56 Â Posted August 18, 2013 Lloyd may have simply had a bad copy of the Elmarit. I have not read his bad review, tho. Fir my part, I have NO probs with my Elmarit 28. In fact, the added cost of the Summicron is not worth it. If you can';t get a very nice pic with the 28 2.8 ASPH, then you might as well sell your Leica gear and find another hobby, or get an old Kodak Brownie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted August 18, 2013 Share #57 Â Posted August 18, 2013 If I was you, I' ll upgrade to the Elmarit f2.8/90mm.___________ FrankR Â Â s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted August 18, 2013 Share #58  Posted August 18, 2013 If I was you, I'd upgrade to the Elmarit 90/2.8 mm Hey—what!? Mo' bigger is mo' better, don't you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantice Posted August 21, 2013 Share #59 Â Posted August 21, 2013 Lloyd may have simply had a bad copy of the Elmarit. I have not read his bad review, tho. Fir my part, I have NO probs with my Elmarit 28. In fact, the added cost of the Summicron is not worth it. If you can';t get a very nice pic with the 28 2.8 ASPH, then you might as well sell your Leica gear and find another hobby, or get an old Kodak Brownie. Â na no one is going to influence my decision, just interested to know what he find, especially those findings not influence by feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted August 22, 2013 Share #60  Posted August 22, 2013 Has anyone know the conclusion of Diglloyd for the comparison of these two lenses? Is the reading for that article worth the subscription?  Your choice, but one must take Lloyd with a grain of salt lately. If you want I can see if Sean Reid has done reviews on both. His subscriptions are lengthy, but he uses M glass a lot.  I own the 28/2 and am contemplating getting the 28/2.8 only for filter ease on long trips if I have many 39mm filter size lenses along. Never concentrated on the 39's, but since getting a APO 50 I will not be without one in bag or on camera. The 46mm filter size lenses are plenty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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