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Why the NEX-7 makes M8 a tough call

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What is slow exactly? If it is only the AF that is fine with me - I don't want it anyway.

 

Well it has virtually no shutter lag but I think it can only shoot at 10 fps.

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I was being sarcastic about the shooting speed. I have no idea how the camera could seem slow to anyone except perhaps there is a very slight viewfinder lag. (I can't say I noticed this when I tried the camera.)

 

I know someone who shoots video with the 5N. He says it is amazingly clean from frame to frame. He posted individual frames and it looks like you could pull decent stills from it if the 1080 resolution is suitable.

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I owned a M8 never bought a second bought a m9 got a second as fast as I could. I got a 5n for no light shooting might get a nex 7 . the M8 was a disaster for shooting color in low light thanks to those damm uv ir filters I had many shots ruined by purple reflections from those filters. If you just shoot in daylight then fine.

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When you get purple corners, do not complain. Has to do with the increased pixel density over the NX5 and lateral CA and some other BS I do not totally understand.

 

Plus it is not a RF and focus is BS.

 

My son spent months researching this and cancelled the order with Sony. We each got a M8 from Tamarkin. Leica really made the right decisions, problem being the public does not understand the tradeoffs they made.

 

I have dug out all the old favs like red scale Elmar, 1.5 Summarit, 35 2.0 V4 Summicron, 75 1.4 `Luz. 15 mm CV, 12 CV. Nary a hint of anything bad. Occasionally I get a purple black. Make a selection in PS and desaturate it. The special IR filters cause more trouble than they are worth. I have no coded lenses either. Just put the lenses on and take pics. I can even do IR with it too. No special deconstruction. No AA filter to smear the image.

 

The one thing I don`t like is the Tungsten WB seems a bit magenta. Write speed to the card is a little slow. Shutter is not like the old cloth one. This one sounds like a tin can dragged behind a car.

 

Took the Nikon out of the bag, put in the M8. I had to check twice if there was a camera inside it was so light and small.

 

I advise you to wait until the reports are out before you pull the trigger.

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the M8 was a disaster for shooting color in low light thanks to those damm uv ir filters I had many shots ruined by purple reflections from those filters. If you just shoot in daylight then fine.

 

Or, uhhh, take the filters off at night.

 

Jeff

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Steve Huff as already pointed out how good the M8 is and has compared the Nex of old to the M8, not sure if this link has already been posted The Leica M8 or the Sony NEX-5 and Adapter? A quick test with the Leica 50 Summarit lens. | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

 

I was interested in looking at the GX1 to replace my GF1 but took the plunge to Lieca, I knew I would get there eventually.....

 

The M8 still performs extremely well in terms of its sensor, worth a read here comparing the Nikon D3X to the M8 and M9, okay at silly high ISO's the Nikon walks away but it's hardly the slaughter some would have you believe.....

 

M9, part 5

 

I will be running my M8 adding one or two lenses (that won't depreciate) and at some point get an M9 when they are sub £3k secondhand

 

I don't think I could go back to a GF or GX as my ultimate camera again. The M8 is superb

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I agree IWC, "The M8 is superb"!

 

I think it's superbness has to do with being, at it's heart, an 'M' camera.

The exposure, focus, and composing, with an M8 are only a faint step removed from the very first M camera leica brought to market long ago. Something doesn't get to hang around for 5 or 6 decades without having something right about it to keep it alive.

:-)

Richard in Michigan

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I got my nex 7 the day before yesterday. I'm still waiting for my M-lens adapter. But speaking for now, i don't think it will be a replacement for the M8. The concepts are so completely different.

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I have the M8, the NEX-5N and will soon try the GXR Mount.

while I love the M8 and have some fun with the NEX, the latters focusing is just adequat.

The EVF is superb, really, but it is still an EVF and I was surprised how much I like the fact that you see much more from the scene through the M8 finder.

 

Also, on the NEX EVF it is not that easy to see where your focus is, especially with faces. it shimmers when it is actually not really sharp yet. If you keep turning the focusing ring, it shimmers even more, so you have to dial it in. a bit cumbersome.

 

That, and the MF zoom function button is in a super awkward position.

 

I expect the GXR mode 2 (grey) to work much better for faces in particular, and that you can program any button to MF zoom will help too.

 

but it is a far cry from the M8 finder.

the 90/2.8 is easier to focus on the NEX than on the M8, if only by a smal margin. the 28/2.8 is VERY hard to focus on the NEX if you don't use zoom, and that slows you down and rules it out for reportage.

 

with the 35/1.4 it works reasonably well on the NEX.

 

If focusing the 28/2.8 on the GXR works for me, I will keep the Ricoh, if not, NEX and Ricoh will find a new home quickly I am sure

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Yes, that IMX test. At any rate a lot better reasoned than DxO. The amazing thing is the consistent difference he finds between the M 9 and M8 despite essentially the same sensor. I have a feeling that it is caused by the differently defined blackpoint on the cameras.

Steve Huff as already pointed out how good the M8 is and has compared the Nex of old to the M8, not sure if this link has already been posted The Leica M8 or the Sony NEX-5 and Adapter? A quick test with the Leica 50 Summarit lens. | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

 

I was interested in looking at the GX1 to replace my GF1 but took the plunge to Lieca, I knew I would get there eventually.....

 

The M8 still performs extremely well in terms of its sensor, worth a read here comparing the Nikon D3X to the M8 and M9, okay at silly high ISO's the Nikon walks away but it's hardly the slaughter some would have you believe.....

 

M9, part 5

 

I will be running my M8 adding one or two lenses (that won't depreciate) and at some point get an M9 when they are sub £3k secondhand

 

I don't think I could go back to a GF or GX as my ultimate camera again. The M8 is superb

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I wanted to buy another "compact" camera, and with the M9 way out of reach, I had to decide between a pre-owned M8 and a Sony NEX-7.

I went for the NEX-7, because I fell in love with that concept and am able to use SLR lenses as well.

 

I do not regret this decision. The NEX-7 is an amazing cam!

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Are you using it with wider than 28mm M lenses? How doest it behave on edges and corners then?

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Are you using it with wider than 28mm M lenses? How doest it behave on edges and corners then?

 

I was expecting this question.

 

No, I only use it with rangefinder lense from 50mm up.

With SLR wide angles there is no problem.

 

But I am going to meet a friend in two days who will bring his 21mm Zeiss ZM and then we will see how the NEX-7 performs.

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OK,a quick recap:

 

- No problems with SLR wide angles.

- violett corners with the Zeiss 2.8/21 ZM

- No problems with a Leica Summicron-M 2/35

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There are a few areas where an NEX7 cannot best the Leica. But the most significant one I discovered this last weekend when I chose to take my Panasonic GF1 with the EVF instead of my M8. That is in the area of multiple frame shooting. The EVF freezes on the first image and the you don't know what the remaining images are until you review the shots on the LCD screen after they have buffered. The results were not satisfying. My friend who has a Sony A55 which also has an EVF has the same problem. It is a great viewfinder and the best EVF on the market, but it does have limitations. My wife has the A33 and loves it after using heavier Nikon DSLR's.

 

Last summer in Iceland, I took a series of great sequential frames of sea birds with the M8 and didn't miss a shot. EVF's have come a long way and even I am looking seriously at the NEX7 or the NEX5 with the clip on EVF. But, I'll still keep the M8 for those shots that the Sony will never get.

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Just curious - the NEX-7 sounds interesting, but so does the Fuji X100. The Fuji has too many limitations though.

 

If this page turns out to be real, not rumor, the choice may have gotten a bit more complicated:

 

http://www.digitaldepot.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/u/fujifilm-xpro1-mirrorless-camera3.jpg

 

It's supposed to be a replacement for the X100. We'll all know more very soon, if it turns out to be for real.

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Just curious - the NEX-7 sounds interesting, but so does the Fuji X100. The Fuji has too many limitations though.

 

If this page turns out to be real, not rumor, the choice may have gotten a bit more complicated:

 

http://www.digitaldepot.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/u/fujifilm-xpro1-mirrorless-camera3.jpg

 

It's supposed to be a replacement for the X100. We'll all know more very soon, if it turns out to be for real.

 

Thread with 500 posts here...

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/217179-new-fuji-x-pro-1-a.html

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you really need to up you game in sex man!

 

Cameras are like having sex, the quick way and the long way. You decide. It's just a matter of pleasure.

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