Selling your DMR?

[ddp]

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Good luck, DDP. With logic like yours you're going to need it.

 

GaryDWhalen

 

 

Lol...care to explain that comment?

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[Guest xxl-user]

I am just packing for a two week vacation. I am packing the DMR, 21-35mm, 50mm Summicron and 180mm APO-Telyt as the backup to my M8.

 

The answer to a DMR backup is a M8.

 

Robert

 

if the m8 is the backup for the dmr what will you do if you need focal lengths > 90 (135mm) or equipment for makro ???

[Guest guy_mancuso]

Use your feet. LOL i could not resist.

 

Actually a Novoflex adapter R to M does work, not easily but it does work

[R10dreamer]

Sure. You spend $40-50,000 on a camera "system" you don't want to have to buy another system to back that one up. It would be similar to buying a Mercedes and then going out and buying a Camry to back up the Mercedes. What's the point of buying the Mercedes in the first place?

 

You act like backing up the R8/R9 DMR system is as easy as buying an M8 or having a Canon as your backup. If I wanted to shoot an M8 or a Canon I would have bought one in the first place.

 

Leica is a company "servicing" a customer base. If technology changes and Leica can't keep up then Leica will fail along with those other companies somoene else mentioned. Acting like Leica is above and beyond the laws of customer service is ridiculous. They will keep up with the technology changes or they will go out of business. It is not my job to help them out. It is their job to help us out.

[Leicaiste]

If you DMR fails, all you need is the original back and to buy some film.

 

;-)

[macusque]

I understand your point Gary, but we don't know if actually Leica won't present a new camera for the next two years.

 

The R10 is probably closer than we think.

 

Anyway my dealer just told me that the DMR is not discontinued, but available only as a special order, sort of "à la carte".

If you need one, you still can get one, it's only that they don't produce them without an order first.

Don't know if it is true, but this is what they told him.

[LVSBB6]

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I'm debating whether to get the DMR now or wait until further announcement.

 

My arsenal includes the R8 with 16mm, 50mm, 135mm, 35-70mm, 80mm-200mm R lenses, and I have been saving up for the DMR for quite some time.

 

Do you guys think I should run out and place the order right now? I'm concerned if they will come out with an even better digital back soon, I hate to buy old technology and fall behind several years. But at the same time, afraid that the left over stocks will be sold out soon.

[Guest guy_mancuso]

You maybe asking the wrong guy here but I still think the DMR is the best image maker in a DSLR to begin with. You can get them at a nice price now, I paid 5900 for one but I am sure there maybe 4700 now and you just have to do the math say it will sell for 3 k in a year used that is what 1700 net what you paid for a year . That's roughly a 140 a month, for a Pro that is nothing and a tax deduction. Just depends if that is worth it too you , but I have done the same math with other DSLR's and that is right in that range between new and selling it used.

 

Once you enter the digital world than these numbers change from film camera's which had a long shelf life because all they added where features. Digital your buying new sensors and a higher level of technology. One needs to accept this change and sometimes like Canon every 18 months so the old rule still applies in the camera world invest in the glass and the bodies will change. Sorry to say this is just a fact of the digital world but just because something new comes out you don't have to switch . The DMR has and will always be a great imaging tool, now matter what comes out next

[mwilliamsphotography]

All the back-up discussions are blown out of proportion. Really, how many people who exclusively shoot the DMR for a living, don't have another one, or another DSLR? Guy and who else?

 

Not me. I have one DMR. I don't use it for commercial work except for an editorial look maybe, and at weddings ... where I also have a 1DsMKII with me.

 

More "Chicken Little", the sky is falling scenarios to panic the Lemmings.

 

But before you-all run off that cliff, please let me know how much you want for your DMR !

 

After all, if the Chicken Littles are right, it'll be worthless soon ... but I'll bail you out for 50 cents on the dollar : -)

[Guest guy_mancuso]

ROTFLMAO . I'll go 50.25 cents on the dollar. That was good Marc and i agree , my poor 5d grew spider webs waiting to get used. The DMR is built like a brick and going down is a rare day. it could happen and i lost a knob too, a week later back in my hands fixed. That issue has never come back either the knob has been redone

[ddp]

Leica is a company "servicing" a customer base. If technology changes and Leica can't keep up then Leica will fail along with those other companies somoene else mentioned. Acting like Leica is above and beyond the laws of customer service is ridiculous. They will keep up with the technology changes or they will go out of business. It is not my job to help them out. It is their job to help us out.

 

Compared to the big boys - they AREN'T keeping up with technology. Nikon & Canon have more sophisticated SLR's and have for some time. First it was "Leica needs auto focus, we are behind." Hmmmm.....seems like enough people bought R8's & R9's to warrant the DMR - even if it was a stopgap measure, as has been mentioned. Do you consider the MP a technological marvel? The LENSES are what captivates people.

 

And honestly, if you have $50K invested in Leica R gear - 2 DMR's would make sense. That seems sensible enough for backup purposes. And if they both fail - put film in the camera. Try that with a D2X.....

[R10dreamer]

Compared to the big boys - they AREN'T keeping up with technology.

 

And have you seen their bottom line P&L's lately?

[ddp]

*sigh*

 

Has the R line ever been the sustaining force of Leica? FWIW - the R9 is a great camera from an ergonomic standpoint, and has some nice features. But it was never a threat to the major players in this game. Never. Cost of entry is simply too high for the average shooter. Newspapers aren't going to have Leica gear stacked up in the closets - even if they produce the best images on earth.

 

You really think Leica is twisting in the wind like a dead vine? I'm willing to bet the M8 has found it's way into a few more homes than people would have thought. And I know that for some, it's their first Leica. That also means lens sales as well. If Leica needs to focus on the M line to survive, so be it.

 

I certainly don't want to see them go out of business, but the R line has not been a technological threat in some time. The DMR was a nice measure - although some moaned that it was too big....bottom line - some people will never be happy.

[mwilliamsphotography]

In my best nasally whine : why can't Leica be more like Canon or Nikon?

 

Leica R is an alternative. The only other one was Contax.

 

Then Contax tried playing the same game as C & N. That lasted what, a few years? Where is Contax now?

[bono0272]

If you DMR fails, all you need is the original back and to buy some film.

 

;-)

 

 

I will do that as well if my DMR fails and have to sent back to Solms, but not selling it anyway.

[Guest guy_mancuso]

There are several lenses in the R line that will just make you completely stupid and buy more of them. Don't ever buy a leica 180 F2 cron. If we want to cry with joy when you look at your images this one will do it. The 35-70 2.8 is another. So whatever comes next if you have a stable of R lenses they will handle any MPX thrown at them.