johnloumiles Posted July 4, 2011 Share #21 Posted July 4, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wow ! 2500 what? I didn't know the Summilux was still available. If second hand ones are selling for 2500 (presumably usd) more than a new Summarit, then, and I never thought I'd write these words, mine is for sale ! Ian I was referring to the price difference...1600 and 4000 new or somewhere along those lines. Also referring to out of focus area, at 75mm the Summarits is very good. Used as a portrait or semi-macro the drop off is better then you would think. Again not better then the Summilux but it holds it's own with Summicron in all areas with one stop less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gerard Posted July 4, 2011 Share #22 Posted July 4, 2011 I've only owned the Lux, so am not able to offer much in the way of direction here (and much will rest on your budget). But I can say that the Lux seems to be two beasts in one; soft and creamy wide open for portraits and dreamy scenes, blisteringly sharp when closed down for landscape and street work. I love it, and rarely notice the size - it's actually quite comfortable to use versus the smaller lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 4, 2011 Share #23 Posted July 4, 2011 Tried 'em all. Have to have the Summilux. Sure hope Leica is planning to introduce a new version - but it would probably price out about like the Nocti f/0.95. Reasons? f/1.4 and the close focusing. Having gotten used to the M8 crop and .7m focusing with a 50, and given the ISO limits of the M digitals, it was the first lens I bought for the M9 (and stupidly sold - and had to replace at a price $700 higher thanks to the rampup between 2009 and 2011). Some shots from an upcoming ColoradoSeen story. Both shots at f/1.4. The apothecary shot was @ 1/90 and ISO 800. I would have been hand-holding at 1/25th with the Summarit (or ISO 2500 - marginal on the M9). As it was, I was on the verge of getting subject-motion blur as the guy performed. (BTW, for the "Leica Dentists" - that is a c. 1840 tooth extractor he is demonstrating ) The "pieces of eight" detail was 1/60th @ ISO 1000. 0.75 meters. Would have been 1/30th with the Summicron (or ISO 2000). And for me, these were "good" light - I've shot places where even the Summicron wasn't fast enough. Sports action where the light called for ISO 2500 and 1/25 sec. with f/2.0 I also happen to really like the Summilux "drawing" - the gentle contrast gave me pretty nice DR in both these chiaroscuro lighting situations. Yeah it is one the heaviest M lenses ever sold - but it is smaller and lighter than my 90 f/2.8 Elmarit R v.1. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/155908-which-75mm/?do=findComment&comment=1723752'>More sharing options...
akiralx Posted July 4, 2011 Share #24 Posted July 4, 2011 Hi I got mine for some what less but that may be the current price, too much quantitive easing. Mine is an ok lens. Only critism they could have easly made the hood reversible, to reduce size, but light enough to carry all day. Noel As a tip others may not know (I only discovered yesterday), the 75 Summarit hood screws on in reverse for storage, and the cap then fits on. I hope the same is true of the 90 Summarit I have just ordered (they share the same hood so it should be). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted July 5, 2011 Share #25 Posted July 5, 2011 I was referring to the price difference...1600 and 4000 new or somewhere along those lines. yeah, I got that bit. Which currency ? Anyhow it's a bit strange to quote prices when one of the items has not been available new for a number of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted July 5, 2011 Share #26 Posted July 5, 2011 is a 75mm summilux that easy to buy? a summarit certainly is .... a summicron, another story but at least you are laying out for a new lens from a dealer, passport, etc .... a 75mm lux is an ebay purchase and take your chances? am i missing another way to purchase the lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. James Wolf Posted July 5, 2011 Share #27 Posted July 5, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Summicron sits at home most of the time; the Summilux goes out almost every day with the pre-ASPH last model 35 Summilux. I might sell the Summicron, but never the Summilux. I bought it new years ago and have never found a better lens with similar specs, and that includes my Nikon 85 1.4 which doesn't get much use these days. Someday I might try the 1.8 Cosina, but I have no desire to go to the Summarit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted July 5, 2011 Share #28 Posted July 5, 2011 Anyone happen to know of a dealer with a 75mm Summicron in stock? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted July 5, 2011 Share #29 Posted July 5, 2011 If it were just for portraits, I'd go for the Summarit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fursan Posted July 5, 2011 Share #30 Posted July 5, 2011 I have the lux and the cron asph. The lux stays in the box. The cron goes with me always. If you like the 50mm lux asph, the 75mm cron asph has a similar look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted July 5, 2011 Share #31 Posted July 5, 2011 pico -- why do you say summarit if just for portraits? if you are shooting landscapes etc, summarit not as good because? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmldds Posted July 5, 2011 Share #32 Posted July 5, 2011 I would dare to compare the 75 Lux to an AMG. The speed is there when you desire, if not, just cruise along at the speed limit and it will still satiate you!!! In reality, I just got a copy of the 75 Lux, my only 75 lens, love it in spite of its weight. Indeed, it is on my M9 about 80% of the time, and my old favorite, 35 pre-asph Lux the rest of the time. I hardly even touch my 50 pre-asph Lux, and 90 cron. For landscape, I like the 25 Zeiss Biogon a lot. Tri:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted July 6, 2011 Share #33 Posted July 6, 2011 I recently got a 75 Summilux (6 months ago). Yes, it's a lot more expensive than what it used to be used. Same is true for many Leica lenses though - they've all gotten a lot more expensive. Anyway, it can be a bit of a beast to use, but I'm loving it. For me, it's so much better than the 75 Summicron. I already have a 50 ASPH, so when I need sharp and modern looking, I'm covered in a nearby focal length. And when the 75 is too heavy for me to carry around, I just use the 50 ASPH and/or the 90 Macro. All in all it gives me a much more flexible kit. More reach (the 90), more close focusing ability (the 90), faster (the 75/1.4), Mandler 'look' (the 75), and more options for travel (the 50 + 90). Considering I got the 75/1.4 and the 90 Macro for less than what you'd pay for a 75 Summicron, I'm happy. I typically travel with the 50 and 90 combo and leave the 75 Summilux at home. I take the 75 whenever I know I'll be in poor light or shooting people. This past weekend I shot with only the 75 and my 28 - didn't even touch the 50 ASPH. Of course, I've heard great things about the 75 Summicron, the 75 Summarit, and the two CV 75s. I don't think any are bad. Pick how much you want to spend and how big of a lens you want and buy one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted July 6, 2011 Share #34 Posted July 6, 2011 I picked up a 2.5 Heliar with some brassing for about half what it cost new, when I had my M8, and used the heck out of it. Great little lens, is all I can say. Now that I no longer have an M8, it hasn't seen much use on my M9. 75 wasn't a focal length that interested me back in the film days, seeming to be not that much longer than a 50 but way shorter than a 90 (my perception entirely). I toyed with a 75 Summilux once, but its reflex-lens size and weight and laboriously stiff and long focusing helix was out of step with my reasoning for choosing a Leica in the first place. But I am glad I've got the Heliar just in case I ever want to use it, and equally glad I have little cash tied up in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubes Posted July 6, 2011 Share #35 Posted July 6, 2011 I think the OP should give a bit more information about what types of portraits they plan on doing. Adults or children? Male or female (adults)? Studio or candid? I think the choice of which 75mm lens will be influenced by those answers. I briefly had the 75 'lux (1st version with the detachable hood, which I believe is also the lightest, though doesn't focus as closely as the later versions) and currently own the 'cron, but I'm not using these for portraits (I have a Nikon 105mm f/2.5 for those ). The 75 'lux I think would be a great lens for studio portraits, especially babies and adult females over a certain age, so to speak--shallower depth-of-field but longer focus throw to dial in focus just where you want it (i.e. the eyes, but you already knew that ) and leave the rest of the face a little soft / glowing. IMHO, if you're working in the studio, this is the lens to use. The 75 'cron I think would serve you better for candids and other fleeting subjects, like children--shorter focus throw, and smaller and lighter all add up to a faster-handling lens than the 'lux. If you use this for studio portraits, then I would think a soft focus filter would be a must. I have no hands-on experience with the 75 Summarit but others above have posted links comparing all three lenses. I suspect the Summarit would handle along the lines of the 'cron, as the Summarit is light and compact (without the lens hood) and (I believe) has a short focus throw. If the 75mm isn't a focal length you expect to get a lot of use from, you don't need the speed or care about the special properties of the 'lux, I would think the lower-cost Summarit (or even the Voigtlander offerings) could be an excellent choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted June 21, 2013 Share #36 Posted June 21, 2013 Looking to purchase 'lux 3950XXX or better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 21, 2013 Share #37 Posted June 21, 2013 pico -- why do you say summarit if just for portraits? if you are shooting landscapes etc, summarit not as good because? The 75 Summilux is too sharp for portraits, at least to my peers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 21, 2013 Share #38 Posted June 21, 2013 Aside - the first Canadian 75mm Summilux has a different focus cam contact than later versions. It appears to be easily replaced. I wonder if it might be easier to tune version one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted June 22, 2013 Share #39 Posted June 22, 2013 Looking to purchase 'lux 3950XXX or better. Why the serial # importance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfhrased Posted June 22, 2013 Share #40 Posted June 22, 2013 I've owned the 75mm Summilux (2nd ver, Canadian) and the 75mm CV Color-Heliar 2.5; and I've tried out the CV 75mm 1.8 Heliar, and the 75mm 2.5 Summarit. Of that selection, I'd go the CV 75mm 1.8. The lux was nice, but the chromatic aberration drove me up the wall, and the weight and size of it were ridiculous. The CV 75mm 2.5 is nice enough, with good dimensionality and sharpness - but lower contrast. This said, if I had the available cash I'd buy the Leica 75mm APO Summicron right now and call it a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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