tuanvo1982 Posted June 22, 2011 Share #1 Posted June 22, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think this is the link : Leica Camera AG - Photography - M8 & M8.2 [Copy from Ict ] 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 Hi tuanvo1982, Take a look here New firmware for M8 is online. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
tuanvo1982 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share #2 Posted June 22, 2011 It was disappointed me because i expect more than only adding a new lens and ... improving something which no one knows what it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgay Posted June 22, 2011 Share #3 Posted June 22, 2011 It was disappointed me because i expect more than only adding a new lens and ... improving something which no one knows what it is. I agree, it's mean. I hardly think someone who can afford an M9 is going to deprive Leica of a sale and opt for the M8 just because Leica might bring the M8 software up to M9 standards. It's worse than mean, because the Leica for life message the company uses to market its products, raises expectations somewhat. Could be worse, though. Leica hasn't abandoned the product and it still has some advantages over the M9 in speed of operation, thinner filter over the sensor offering just-as-good-if-not-sharper images, better B+W due the higher IR sensitivity - and no loss of resolution. Not bad for the "old model". Mark M7, M8, M9, X1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted June 22, 2011 Share #4 Posted June 22, 2011 Hey; Leica have delivered exactly what they promised. I've downloaded and uploaded. Will shoot for a week and see how it improves the corner colour tinge on my 28 Cron. Will update later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caparobertsan Posted June 22, 2011 Share #5 Posted June 22, 2011 I agree, it's mean. I hardly think someone who can afford an M9 is going to deprive Leica of a sale and opt for the M8 just because Leica might bring the M8 software up to M9 standards. It's worse than mean, because the Leica for life message the company uses to market its products, raises expectations somewhat. Could be worse, though. Leica hasn't abandoned the product and it still has some advantages over the M9 in speed of operation, thinner filter over the sensor offering just-as-good-if-not-sharper images, better B+W due the higher IR sensitivity - and no loss of resolution. Not bad for the "old model". Mark M7, M8, M9, X1 Yes I agree, spcially after I have seen new model of M9. THE M9-P.... I do`nt mind them at all! I f I have money I will buy M9-P even M8 has same firmware as M9. Red dot is gone and Leica writing on top.... they are just beautiful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyphoto Posted June 23, 2011 Share #6 Posted June 23, 2011 It was disappointed me because i expect more than only adding a new lens and ... improving something which no one knows what it is. +1 May be "Optimization of internal processes" is very difficult job for 1 engineer who left for M8 project. I am willing to pay if new firmware include lens selection manually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobeyone Posted June 23, 2011 Share #7 Posted June 23, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Talk about an anti climax... Well, at least I can still take photos) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radfilm Posted June 23, 2011 Share #8 Posted June 23, 2011 The Improvements PDF says "Optimization of internal processes" What do you think that means? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkie Posted June 23, 2011 Share #9 Posted June 23, 2011 yeah, what does "Optimization of internal processes" mean LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted June 23, 2011 Share #10 Posted June 23, 2011 yeah, what does "Optimization of internal processes" mean LOL I have a feeling this will be a perpetual mystery to us all... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted June 23, 2011 Share #11 Posted June 23, 2011 As posted in the other Firmware thread... Wow this is nice; the preview is instantly displayed, the in-between low resolution was really annoying and just made the M8 look old and slow, new life has been injected M8u The profiles where not reset... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
salobaas Posted June 23, 2011 Share #12 Posted June 23, 2011 So makes me wonder what the beta-testers have been testing all these months? Did they get any briefing on what to pay extra attention too? "Internal processes", sounds like a placebo release except for the new lens. -- Fons Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciberclick Posted June 23, 2011 Share #13 Posted June 23, 2011 In your experiences, can the upgrade (on M8.2) be done from 2.002 directly to 2.014 (skipping 2.004 and 2.005 firmware versions) or is it better to upgrade through all past versions? Thanks in advance. Bye Andrea Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted June 23, 2011 Share #14 Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Mark, I disagree that Leica Camera has been 'mean' to M8 owners. Nothing to do with messages or marketing or not depriving themselves of a sale or raised expectations. There hasn't been any new production since prior the M9 release anyway (19 months or so). In fact they suggest that a used M8 is the lower cost entry path to digital M's for people that are unwilling/unable to pay the higher M9 cost. In other words they are saying buy a used one if you want (which does not directly profit them and does deprive them of an M9 sale if so) Exactly as Stefan Daniel promised back in 2009 they have continued M8 updates but there will be no new large changes or redevelopment. Every new lens is supported and now operation should be faster too (as a spin off from what they have learnt with the M9) Give it a good try out and post your impressions? Stefan Daniel was quite candid at the M9 launch that it would be too expensive to add some new M9 features (like manual lens selection) to the M8 firmware after it was finished development. With the M9 they have been able to include new features when developing from scratch. At a guess the M8 may not have enough processing power anyway. I am no sofware engineer. The M9 does have two of the single processor that the M8 has. The M8 is still a Leica for life if you like. I still does everything it did on release only it has been incrementally improved since the start, reducing problems, refining some features and adding some of the M8.2 new features and now the processing is faster on the same hardware too. I agree, it's mean. I hardly think someone who can afford an M9 is going to deprive Leica of a sale and opt for the M8 just because Leica might bring the M8 software up to M9 standards. It's worse than mean, because the Leica for life message the company uses to market its products, raises expectations somewhat. Could be worse, though. Leica hasn't abandoned the product and it still has some advantages over the M9 in speed of operation, thinner filter over the sensor offering just-as-good-if-not-sharper images, better B+W due the higher IR sensitivity - and no loss of resolution. Not bad for the "old model". Mark M7, M8, M9, X1 Edited June 23, 2011 by jaapv 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted June 23, 2011 Share #15 Posted June 23, 2011 My previews are super fast now. Nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted June 23, 2011 Share #16 Posted June 23, 2011 In your experiences, can the upgrade (on M8.2) be done from 2.002 directly to 2.014 (skipping 2.004 and 2.005 firmware versions) or is it better to upgrade through all past versions? Thanks in advance. Bye Andrea Yes, but you can't go back, reinstall to previous FW versions if you have the 1/4000 shutter as you have... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkie Posted June 23, 2011 Share #17 Posted June 23, 2011 My M8 still makes good coffee. It just makes it faster now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 23, 2011 Share #18 Posted June 23, 2011 The Improvements PDF says "Optimization of internal processes" What do you think that means? Things run faster, and/or the firmware takes up less space. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted June 23, 2011 Share #19 Posted June 23, 2011 The M8 was announced in September 2006. Four years and nine months later we still get updates. That is bloody good, no matter how minute the changes are. Perspective: The newest firmware I could find for the 5D (mk I) is v1.1.1 from January 2008, two years and five months after the camera's introduction. The M8 is full of enginering compromises, some are smart some are not so smart and the lack of memory is a bit sad (almost as bad as Panasonic's choice of a raw buffer size in the Digilux 2/ LC1). It, non the less, probably seemed suficcient at the time and it is likely that they squeezed in as many memory chips as they could of a decent size that could be procured at the lowest possible cost. It is time to come to terms with the fact that we will not get a manual lens selection feature for our M8s and move on. If you so desperatly want, need, desire one, get an M9. Carl 16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted June 23, 2011 Share #20 Posted June 23, 2011 I have a feeling this will be a perpetual mystery to us all... :D:D 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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