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Actually, I noticed a strange "behaviour" with a CV 15 4.5, coded as Tri-Elmar and usually set at 16mm: I hat to redo the coding twice as it was constantly, i.e., after each shot, asking for a new choice between 16-18-21mm ans was even jumping between these "automatically". ...

I used to have the same problem with my CV 15/4.5 and eventually started coding it as a 21/2.8 to avoid the problem. I felt that the 21/2.8 coding gave better correction than the 16mm setting for the Wide Angle Tri-Elmar too.

 

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I'm disappointed at how ungrateful some people can be. Leica has spent money in developing another new software upgrade for a 4 year old camera that's been superseded twice (3 times if you count the M9-P) and provided it at no charge to everyone.   For once there are no disgruntled cries of "at last they've fixed the <insert function>!" so the new firmware provides betterment to your M8 at no cost. Some might reasonably suggest that this could be seen as an element of the M8's perpetua

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I wrote to Leica Technical Support yesterday regarding the internal optimisation of the Firmware. Here's my question and reply :-   Following the release of the Firmware Update 2.014 for the M8, I was wondering if you could provide a bit more detail about which Internal Processes were Optimised?   -------------   In response to your question, there are no quantifiable examples of a process being optimised, other than the camera as a whole operating faster, smoother and with fewer glitches.

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Bob,

 

The new firmware detects the load on the M-mount and if the load is different to the load presented by the lens for which the coding is intended then the M8 won't recognise the lens. The 21/2.8 Elmarit is heavier that the CV 21/4 so there's the problem. <Joking!>

 

I haven't heard this reported by anyone else and tbh it can only be the self coding. I've found self coding to be hit and miss at times whether using the M-coder or Milich LTM-M adaptor, which has the pre-milled slots. You might like to make sure there's no grease or dirt obscuring the LEDs on the M-mount if you haven't already.

 

Pete.

 

Pete

 

Turns out you were bang on. After a couple of hours and half a dozen attempts I got it to work. Perhaps they have increased the sensitivity as part of the improvements in internal processes!

 

Many thanks for the guidance.

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I used to have the same problem with my CV 15/4.5 and eventually started coding it as a 21/2.8 to avoid the problem. I felt that the 21/2.8 coding gave better correction than the 16mm setting for the Wide Angle Tri-Elmar too.

 

Pete.

 

Thanks, Pete. I'll try that and let you know.

 

Cheers,

Gérald

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I used to have the same problem with my CV 15/4.5 and eventually started coding it as a 21/2.8 to avoid the problem. I felt that the 21/2.8 coding gave better correction than the 16mm setting for the Wide Angle Tri-Elmar too.

 

Pete.

 

 

BTW, is it the 21/2.8 ASPH or not?

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BTW, is it the 21/2.8 ASPH or not?

I used the code for the pre-asph, which is very easy:D: 100000. Incidentally, the amount of correction is only my subjective view so please don't expect a huge difference.

 

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Glad to see the M8 is not been relegated to the trash heap. I will be upgrading the firmware on mine later today. Even if it is a small advance, it is still an improvement on a camera I continue to love for what it produces. The M8 remains as viable as ever :-).

 

Life happened (surgery on my neck bones) and I didn't get around to updating the firmware until today 7/11/11. I immediately took a couple of shots with the existing natural light in my living room and I can perceive improvement in the noise department.

 

First shot posted here is at 640, the second is 1250. This doesn't pretend to be a scientific test. I'm not a fan of noise so I am delighted to perceive some improvement. M8, 35mm Summicron ASPH wide open.

 

Thank you Leica :-).

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Thank you, Wilfredo, for the ISO 640 vs 1250 comparison on the M8. I never saw better noise control in an M8 image at 640. (I assume you did not use post-processing noise control.) I still cherish my M8.2. I'm hesitant to buy an M9 because I do not believe it has truly better noise control after the M8 image is post-processed. (I think the M9 noise control at 1250 is all in-camera processing, which can be duplicated with an M8 and Adobe CS5.) And I do not believe that the M9 is really full-frame-- not for me: I'm a wide-angle fan. From what I read about red-edge, I would have to crop 1/3 off the M9 image to avoid corner/edge discoloration and distortion -- which brings me right back to the M8, which I already have. Go figure! Best regards, Tom

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Wilfredo: ISO 640 was fine before the upgrade, and it will remain so, placebo effect or no. Those of us who shot available dark with ISO 400 film (back when dinosaurs roamed the earth) already have things better than we had before the M8. Except for Tri-X's several stops worth of highlight headroom that you could burn in when printing, but no digital camera has that.

 

Check out my post #153 here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/190924-some-us-really-do-need-better-8.html

 

Get out your fast lens and come play in the dark. It's fun, and the M8 delivers beautifully once you get to know its nightime behavoir. Expose enough for faces and important details, maybe crush down the blacks a little, and life is good.

 

--Peter

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