roguewave Posted June 22, 2011 Share #1 Â Posted June 22, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm looking for whatever info I can get about peoples experiences with these cameras & R glass. I just spent the last week shooting with a Nikon D3 at 6500 ISO is a small, dark Jazz club. I like what I saw. It doesn't come close to the files I get with my DMR at ISO 100-200, but then I can't use the DMR in that setting. Â In particular, what are the strengths & weakness of the Canon & Nikon, using the R glass? Â Thanks. Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stunsworth Posted June 22, 2011 Share #2 Â Posted June 22, 2011 I used R lenses on Canon DSLRs for several years. The advantage to me over Nikon is that you don't have to replace the lens mount, it's just a simple adaptor. And if you are only using R lenses on the Canon you can leave the adaptor on the body when you change lenses - i.e. you only need to buy one adaptor as opposed to a mount for each lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted June 22, 2011 Share #3 Â Posted June 22, 2011 I've started using a 60mm Elmarit on a Nikon FM3A. As Steve says, I have had to fit a Leitax mount to get there and have to stop-down meter as a result. I'm not finding this a big issue, to be fair. but it would depend on the lens and your intended usage. A minor but interesting point is that the lump of Leica brass on the front deadens the sharp clack of the Nikon titanium shutter far better than any Nikon lens I have! Â Regards, Â Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguewave Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share #4 Â Posted June 22, 2011 Steve & Bill, thanks for your comments. Have either of you compared the files from both Canon & Nikon. My particular need is for the highest ISO that can also provide excellent DNG files. I'm shooting in VERY low light. I used a friend's D3 and many files just didn't make the grade. Thanks again. Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 22, 2011 Share #5  Posted June 22, 2011 Ben  I'm happy to share some high ISO Nefs from the D700 with you if you wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 22, 2011 Share #6 Â Posted June 22, 2011 I wonder how much a D3S would help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguewave Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share #7  Posted June 22, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ben I'm happy to share some high ISO Nefs from the D700 with you if you wish.  That would be great. I would assume that the Nefs I got from the D3 would be similar. My email is ben@nysity.com. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 22, 2011 Share #8 Â Posted June 22, 2011 D3 and D700 have the same sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 22, 2011 Share #9  Posted June 22, 2011 Steve & Bill, thanks for your comments. Have either of you compared the files from both Canon & Nikon. My particular need is for the highest ISO that can also provide excellent DNG files  Not sure that either Canon or Nikon can shoot DNGs.  I haven't compared the cameras as I only ever owned the Canons - and sold my 5D abter buying an M8 - so I can't help there I'm afraid.  One other thing, if you intend to continue using the lenses on an R body the Leitex solution isn't really practical IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 22, 2011 Share #10 Â Posted June 22, 2011 D3 and D700 have the same sensor. Â But there could still be a difference if one camera has more aggressive in camera noise reduction than the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 22, 2011 Share #11 Â Posted June 22, 2011 AFAIK, it's the same processor as well. I have the D3. Nikon gives .NEF files. Adobe has a free converter to ,DNG. I prefer the Nikon conversion, gives better colors IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguewave Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share #12 Â Posted June 22, 2011 AFAIK, it's the same processor as well. I have the D3.Nikon gives .NEF files. Adobe has a free converter to ,DNG. I prefer the Nikon conversion, gives better colors IMHO. Â Thanks for this info. Do you know if there's any issue with the 35 Lux & 19 Elmarit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Gunst Lund Posted June 22, 2011 Share #13 Â Posted June 22, 2011 The D3s is actually between one and two stops better than D3... Stop down metering is rather slow,,, I would only choose Nikon if I had a lot of good Nikon F-mount lenses, Nikon Canon is a matter of difference in the feel and the menus what you prefer... Some of the new Nikkors f/1.4 are very close to Leica rendering... 24mm 35mm 85mm NikonGear.com will make you feel like a boy in a toy shop again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 22, 2011 Share #14  Posted June 22, 2011 On Nikon: Leica lens for Nikon cameras Leica FAQ — R + M lens mount adapters   On Canon: USING LEICA-R LENSES ON CANON dSLRs Leica FAQ — R lenses on Canon DSLRs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 22, 2011 Share #15  Posted June 22, 2011 Thanks for this info. Do you know if there's any issue with the 35 Lux & 19 Elmarit?  35 Lux: Issues, yes  19 Elmarit: First and current version seem fine on some Nikons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 22, 2011 Share #16 Â Posted June 22, 2011 I've been really happy with my Canon body and an inexpensive-bought via ebay-adaptor, with focus confirmation. Â Wide to standard lenses are OK but I find it difficult to focus well with longer lenses (even with focus confirmation, and my eyesight is good). A different focus screen would help, the split image type (I don't actually know if they're available though). Â The other issue is TTL metering with stop down lenses - it's not accurate so you need to use the hand held meter (although I'm getting used to it now and can reasonably judge how much to adjust exposure as I stop down). Â I don't know if the same issue applies to Nikon. Canon was the only choice for me as I also use an R3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguewave Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share #17  Posted June 22, 2011 35 Lux: Issues, yes 19 Elmarit: First and current version seem fine on Nikon  I also have a 80Lux, but think I'll keep that fro my DMR only.  What about the 24 R 2,8 Elmarit ? Any issues there? I want a great 24 & just love this lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 22, 2011 Share #18  Posted June 22, 2011 24 Elmarit: no go for D3 according to  Elmarit 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 22, 2011 Share #19  Posted June 22, 2011 35 Lux: Issues, yes 19 Elmarit: First and current version seem fine on Nikon   According to Elmarit 19 current version Issues with Nikon FF, need shaving.  I would say no go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 22, 2011 Share #20 Â Posted June 22, 2011 Ben, Â To me it looks like you are out of luck for the 3 lenses on a Nikon D3, unless you would consider shaving the mirror. I wouldn't. Please, read some of the references. I don't want to mislead you. Â Best, K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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