mitchell Posted February 5, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have an M8 and the 30% off for a new lens is burning a hole in my pocket. Â I have now 35/2, 50/2, and 90/2.8. I want a 1.4 first, and maybe a 28 or 24 later. Â Now I probably use the 50 most. Â How much do the 50 and 35 Luxes intrude on the viewfinder? Does the weight of the 50 bother you? Â I've been leaning towards the 50 Lux, but the 35 Lux would be a more comfortable size and weight. Â Thanks for any help. Â Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wparsonsgisnet Posted February 5, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Mitchell, I have both of these 'lux asph lenses and find that wider lenses are more useful to me with the M8. Â I use the 24 the most, and the 35 the next most often. The 50 has become a portrait lens on the M8. Â If you are going to get the 35 'lux, I highly recommend you splurge for the asph version. The non-asph lens if very flare-prone. Â G;luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted February 5, 2007 Share #3 Â Posted February 5, 2007 By the time you've fitted the lens hood to the 35mm, it's just 12g lighter than the 50mm so your back would have to be in pretty bad shape to be affected by that. Â It's the Nocti that's the monster... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share #4 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Thanks Mark and Bill, Â Do they intrude much into the veiwfinder? Â Is the 50 better because it's newer? I see on a different thread the suggestion that the 35 Lux needs updating. Â Thanks, Â Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted February 5, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Consider your future wide angle---many wouldn't carry a 28 and a 35 at the same time. Two 3 lens outfits that seem quite useful are 24/35/90 and 28/50/90, but your needs may differ. Â In part, though, you've answered your question already---if you shoot 50 the most, you'll likely get the most use out of the 50. I'm waiting a bit to consider the %30 deal, as I'm not fully settled on M8 lens choices. Maybe you're using the 50 based on film habits, and over the next couple months you might find yourself slowly but surely turning towards the 35... Â The 35 Lux is a fantastic lens, and has no issues with the M8 viewfinder. Â Good luck with your decision. Whatever you decide, you're going to end up with a great lens. Â Clyde Rogers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted February 5, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Mitchell, Â 1. The 50 f1.4 asph has a built-in hood. The lens is visible in the finder and, when extended, the hood extends further. However, the extended hood only touches the corner of the frameline box; it does not intrude into the frameline. Â You show know that the M8 frame lines are calibrated for closest focusing distance, so in reality the lens and hood really do intrude into the image at most times. Â 2. the hood of the 35 f1.4 asph cleerly intruded into the frameline box. The upper-left corner of the hood has a cutout so you can see a little of what the hood obscures. In practice, I have not found this a problem; I don't notice this intrusion when I am shooting. Â It's sort of like the second day with a mosquito bite. It's there, but it doesn't itch any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted February 5, 2007 Share #7  Posted February 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Get the 35'lux and get one of the screw in metal hoods from Heavystar on eBay as I show in this post: http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/12611-alternate-35mm-1-4-lux-hood.html?highlight=heavystar#post130598  - Carl  PS: Not affiliated with Heavystar in any way..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted February 5, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted February 5, 2007 My 35 1.4 ASPH is my standard on the M8, very happy with it. It;s so flare resistant that I'm tending to leave the hood off and not have any obstruction of the view finder. I will look into the screw on hood though. best...Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted February 5, 2007 Share #9 Â Posted February 5, 2007 I see on a different thread the suggestion that the 35 Lux needs updating. Â That must have been a misunderstanding then. The current 35 'lux asph is one of the best 35mm lenses ever made, and certainly doesn't need any updating. Â Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted February 5, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted February 5, 2007 That was me... highlighting the oldest of the ASPH lenses and wondering whether Leica might start revising the oldest lenses - though of course the Nocti and 75/1.4 are the oldest by a long way. Â Truth is, you cannot go wrong with either lens. The 50 intrudes slightly with the hood extended, the 35 a bit more, neither is a problem IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted February 5, 2007 Share #11 Â Posted February 5, 2007 I see on a different thread the suggestion that the 35 Lux needs updating. Why Mark would include the 35'lux asph on the same line as the Nocti and the 75'lux is beyond me. What on earth would you want to change? OK, the size could be smaller (but then the max aperture would have to shrink as well and you have the 35'cron ASPH). And it wasn't a "this lens needs a redesign, it was "redesign 'older' lenses". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted February 5, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted February 5, 2007 What on earth would you want to change? Â Knurled focussing ring? LOL. I included it just by way of an example of what Leica might do next with the next M lens line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted February 5, 2007 Share #13  Posted February 5, 2007 I have an M8 and the 30% off for a new lens is burning a hole in my pocket. I have now 35/2, 50/2, and 90/2.8. I want a 1.4 first, and maybe a 28 or 24 later.  Now I probably use the 50 most.  How much do the 50 and 35 Luxes intrude on the viewfinder? Does the weight of the 50 bother you?  I've been leaning towards the 50 Lux, but the 35 Lux would be a more comfortable size and weight.  Thanks for any help.  Mitchell  Hi Mitch,  They're both superb lenses. I'd suggest you just pick your favorite focal length.  Cheers,  Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share #14 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Thanks everyone. Â Sean, just read more on your site. Very useful as usual. Â I seem to use 50mm the most, but isn't real question would I use a 50 @ 1.4 more than a 35 @ 1.4. as I already have both @ 2.0. Â I'm not sure. I think I might use 1.4 for land and city scapes in failing light or people indoors, in which case I might be better off with the 35. Â At any rate I think I will try to get a 28/2 so I get a real wide angle look. Â It's hard to get these lenses now. Popflash has the 50/1.4 and both 28's on back order. I hope this is good news for Leica. Â Best, Â Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_b_elmer Posted February 5, 2007 Share #15 Â Posted February 5, 2007 My five eurocents: It is not a question of either - or, but a question of both - and, and, accordingly, which of the two lenses, you mention, that you should acquire first. Â In my opinion your doubt can only be settled by buying both lenses, and since you seem to prefer the 50 mm lens over the 35 you should start with the 50/1.4 asph. You should, however, consider carefully, whether you should not take the step fully and get the Noctilux instead of the 50 Summilux. I personally have had both the 50 summicron and the 50 summilux but have sold both in order to get the Noctilux which in my opinion is the perfect companion for the M8 and a perfect portrait lens with that camera. Â The 35/1.4 asph (or the 35/1.4 aspherical if you are lucky to find that lens, which is by experts regarded the best of them all) is a perfect companion for the M8 also and hard to do without. I have had the 35/2 IV generation (the socalled King of bokeh), the 35/2.0 asph and the 35/1.4 asph, and the latter is clearly the best and most versatile, although the summicron asph is in no way bad. I have now sold them all to get the Aspherical 35/1.4 which is now in Solms for 6-bit encoding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share #16 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Micheal, Â Well yes I could end up getting both, but I'll get a 28 first. Â What is the difference between a 35/1.4 asph and a 35/1.4 Aspherical? Â Thanks, Â Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted February 5, 2007 Share #17 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Mitchell, I believe the aspherical version was the first one made, was superior to the asph version that later appeared, and was too expensive to manufacture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share #18 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Thanks Bill, that rings a bell. Â Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted February 5, 2007 Share #19 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Didn't it have two aspherical surfaces? Maybe with updated manufacturing processes they could re-introduce it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted February 5, 2007 Share #20 Â Posted February 5, 2007 Erwin Puts rates the Aspherical and the ASPH 35s as being almost identical in performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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