BillM82 Posted May 25, 2011 Share #1 Posted May 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am going to Brazil soon but not sure about taking my M9 and lenses. Thinking of a smaller camera lead me to X1 or X100. So I went to the London Leica store with an SD card to try out the X1. The one with the Merc at f8, the other at f5.6. On the basis of these results, no thank you. Any idea what was wrong here? This was the display model in the store. Still searching for an X100 to try. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/152599-what-is-going-on-here/?do=findComment&comment=1682494'>More sharing options...
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prk60091 Posted May 25, 2011 Share #2 Posted May 25, 2011 I am going to Brazil soon but not sure about taking my M9 and lenses. Thinking of a smaller camera lead me to X1 or X100. So I went to the London Leica store with an SD card to try out the X1. The one with the Merc at f8, the other at f5.6. On the basis of these results, no thank you. Any idea what was wrong here? This was the display model in the store. Still searching for an X100 to try. what focusing mode did you use? manual? AF? (which AF?) do you know if the firmware had been upgraded? i would try it again w/ 1Spot focus and multi metering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM82 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted May 25, 2011 Taken off the shelf in the store, so I assumed it was set to AF but now that you mention it I wonder if it was on manual? Sun was so strong I could not see anything on the screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar B Posted May 25, 2011 Share #4 Posted May 25, 2011 I,ve no idea "what is going on here" ... but can report that in the 5-6 weeks i have been using one ive no results like this ... one thing springs to mind ... did you get the green light and gave it enough time to focus .... V1 software needs time , im confident you can appreciate that being an M9 user. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM82 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted May 25, 2011 New firmware was installed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted May 25, 2011 Share #6 Posted May 25, 2011 nice bokeh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 25, 2011 Share #7 Posted May 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) What's going on here? User error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted May 25, 2011 Share #8 Posted May 25, 2011 i would go back and double check out the MF/AF and it is possible that particular camera is faulty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykaman Posted May 25, 2011 Share #9 Posted May 25, 2011 I am going to Brazil soon but not sure about taking my M9 and lenses. Thinking of a smaller camera lead me to X1 or X100. So I went to the London Leica store with an SD card to try out the X1. The one with the Merc at f8, the other at f5.6. On the basis of these results, no thank you. Any idea what was wrong here? This was the display model in the store. Still searching for an X100 to try. Hi, it’s been noted many times, the X1 is N O T a P&S..there is a learning curve.. If you are an experienced photographer you would/should at least have spent a little time getting to know even the basics of the X1..I doubt you could jump in & drive a Ferrari like an experienced Ferrari driver, it does N O T mean the Ferrari is at fault.. I spent a 10hour atlantic flight just studying the X1 manual..my first images proved the time was well spent..Try again “Jackson” the X1 will satisfy your photographic needs, you need to understand it’s mindset.. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/152599-what-is-going-on-here/?do=findComment&comment=1682552'>More sharing options...
jippiejee Posted May 25, 2011 Share #10 Posted May 25, 2011 I am certain the camera was locked in MF, one of the nice new features of the X1 firmware upgrade and for sure tested by someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeTexas Posted May 25, 2011 Share #11 Posted May 25, 2011 As others have mentioned, my guess would be that the camera was set to manual focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted May 25, 2011 Share #12 Posted May 25, 2011 BillM82, I am simply amazed that you would base an important buying decision on such a perfunctory test. Did you allow no time to ask for a quick demonstration of the camera? Surely that would have highlighted the key settings. So the blame for the operating error lies entirely with you, I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar B Posted May 25, 2011 Share #13 Posted May 25, 2011 Well Bill ... i for one do "not" wish to put you off the X1 ... its a very capable wee camera and punches above its weight ... plus in the Leica digital world ... (not cheap) represents good value for money ... please have another go Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM82 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share #14 Posted May 25, 2011 Well I was in a bit of a rush but did say that I wanted to take a few quick shots to look at the results on the card. I guess they should have reset the camera. My idea was to take a few shots with the X1 and then the X100 and compare. But I guess you cannot trust the store to reset, they just put it back on the shelf after the last guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 25, 2011 Share #15 Posted May 25, 2011 Fair point, the Leica salesperson should have ensured that you left with decent examples. Not so much user error (as I said above), rather shoddy service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted May 26, 2011 Share #16 Posted May 26, 2011 As an alternative, you might also like to consider the D-Lux 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyder28 Posted May 26, 2011 Share #17 Posted May 26, 2011 Finally someone sounds like more of a newb than me:p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted May 26, 2011 Share #18 Posted May 26, 2011 Fair point, the Leica salesperson should have ensured that you left with decent examples. Not so much user error (as I said above), rather shoddy service. While I agree to a point, I still fail to see how a quick test could be concluded without examining the LCD screen jpegs. Such out of focus results should have been immediately obvious to both salesman and customer! Perhaps this vital stage was omitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allnm Posted May 26, 2011 Share #19 Posted May 26, 2011 For basic research of your choices of camera, you only have to look at the gallery to see what the X1 is capable of, and dpreview's review of the X100 to see what thats like. You should get images similar to their samples, if not, there is something wrong, in your case, as has been said before, the camera was probably on MF and you need to spend a little more time with it before making a decision. I can crop to 100% any of my X1 images and they are sharp as sharp can be. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykaman Posted May 26, 2011 Share #20 Posted May 26, 2011 As an alternative, you might also like to consider the D-Lux 5. Or maybe a box brownie, if you looked at the X1 as a serious photographer the issue would not have arisen. However good or bad the salesperson is/ was I have always found that if one looks at Leicas it is assumed you have a certain photographic knowledge and expertise. Of course on the other hand this Post could have been put up by a Troll! Buy a Lomo, every image is different even with the same settings! Ha@@y sna@@ing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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