Daniel Leung Posted May 5, 2011 Share #1 Â Posted May 5, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all, Â I am in Hong Kong now for biz and happened to walk around town last night and went into one of the local Leica shop there. As I was speaking to the owner, I was aksing him about the M9 titianium and guess what. he does has one in the shop and he shows me. it is a beautiful camera, it is slightly thicker than the regular M9. they are asking for US$33,500- it is really an expenisive piece and now, I have been asking myself, should I buy it or no. still thinking about it but want to share with you all that it does feel good when holding it. Â Daniel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted May 5, 2011 Share #2 Â Posted May 5, 2011 Do you want it to have it or to use it? To have - I would buy it; to use I would not, I would buy two M9s and some real glass like Nocti- and Summiluxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Leung Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share #3 Â Posted May 5, 2011 Do you want it to have it or to use it? To have - I would buy it; to use I would not, I would buy two M9s and some real glass like Nocti- and Summiluxes. Â I already have the regular M9 and many leica lenses including the 0.96 Noct. if I bought it, it is straightly as a collector item. but I am not sure if I am going to make money for it? if not, why should I buy it? Â Daniel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 5, 2011 Share #4 Â Posted May 5, 2011 The usual collector's reason? Just to own it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted May 5, 2011 Share #5 Â Posted May 5, 2011 Is collecting about making money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Leung Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share #6 Â Posted May 5, 2011 Is collecting about making money? Â at least not to lose its value when you want to sell it - IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 5, 2011 Share #7 Â Posted May 5, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I really dislike the attitude of some Leica owners who see their cameras/lenses as financial investments. Collecting for the sake of collecting is fine, and the desire to own a particular piece may push prices up. Â Yes, Leica's do hold their value well initially, and/or some items increase in value over time, but if you are simply looking for a fianancial investment then please go elsewhere! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 5, 2011 Share #8 Â Posted May 5, 2011 at least not to lose its value when you want to sell it - IMO. Â A true collector will pay whatever he/she is prepared to own a particular item, which could well be above its market value, it's not about price or resale value per se. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 5, 2011 Share #9 Â Posted May 5, 2011 at least not to lose its value when you want to sell it - IMO. If you collect correctly you neither need nor want to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Leung Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share #10  Posted May 5, 2011 I really dislike the attitude of some Leica owners who see their cameras/lenses as financial investments. Collecting for the sake of collecting is fine, and the desire to own a particular piece may push prices up. Yes, Leica's do hold their value well initially, and/or some items increase in value over time, but if you are simply looking for a fianancial investment then please go elsewhere!  I bought the regular M9 and all the other lenses without thinkng it is going to gain any value or as an financial invenstment. once you bought it and use it, it is already consider 2nd hand and its value drops. However, I do have to think about its value if I have to spend $35,000 on a camera. why do I have to go elsewhere if I want to buy the M9 titanium and make money eventually if I want to sell it one day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Leung Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share #11  Posted May 5, 2011 If you collect correctly you neither need nor want to sell.  Hi Jaap, thank you for pointing this out. I think I get the answer now  Tks Daniel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 5, 2011 Share #12 Â Posted May 5, 2011 The future "collectors value" of digital cameras in general, is a big question point imho... there is not yet a history behind... one could refer to the prices' level of old "collectors PC" (there is a certain market - little masterpieces like the HP 85 do have a certain fascination and a historical value), which are, generally speaking, LOW, so as the prices of some high level/top brand "consumer electronics" gear (Hifi - tape recorders...). IMHO, in value retention terms, my opinion is that a $ 33500 titanium M9 is a very risky bet.... ... of course, anyone is free to spend his money how he likes... no doubt that is a very fine item... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 5, 2011 Share #13 Â Posted May 5, 2011 I am sure, Luigi, that if you had a spare 30.000 Euro with no other destination, a camera like that might wind up on your shelf. It might with me, but unfortunately such sums if they come my way are neither spare nor without need to be spent elsewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted May 5, 2011 Share #14 Â Posted May 5, 2011 I sometimes buy collector cars, but I buy them to drive. Not every day of course, but the joy in owning one is to experience how it feels and performs which is usually a unique experience. For me, buying a camera that performs exactly like my current daily driver and never using it would be quite unsatisfying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Nomad64 Posted May 5, 2011 Share #15  Posted May 5, 2011 Don't want to look like the typical party pooper, but I'm afraid that digital cameras won't retain much of their value. So far they've shared the destiny of PCs and other electronics. They depreciate from year to year as they are superseded by newer cheaper and more powerful models. So far the special editions of the M8 didn't hold. If I remember properly there's been a couple white M8s lying around in the buy & sell section whose price was reduced as time went by. And it was quite logical. Who'd pay an used M8 albeit in a special edition more than a new M9? If tomorrow there were say an M10 at € 7,000 with all improvements we've been debating here and there, would you buy a 2nd hand M9 Titanium at € 20,000? I don't think so.  Cheers, Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 5, 2011 Share #16  Posted May 5, 2011 I am sure, Luigi, that if you had a spare 30.000 Euro with no other destination, a camera like that might wind up on your shelf. It might with me, but unfortunately such sums if they come my way are neither spare nor without need to be spent elsewhere  ... right about the amount I had to put on my new Volvo V70 ... net of my beloved Alfa 159 ... cars , like it or not, are a NEED in today's life... tasty titanium M9 not so much... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 5, 2011 Share #17 Â Posted May 5, 2011 Buy it and don't tell anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 5, 2011 Share #18  Posted May 5, 2011 why do I have to go elsewhere if I want to buy the M9 titanium and make money eventually if I want to sell it one day  Because there are without doubt more certain and more lucrative ways to invest your money to ensure a certain return in the future.  Buy the M9 Tit if you like it/want it, but not as an investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted May 5, 2011 Share #19 Â Posted May 5, 2011 IHowever, I do have to think about its value if I have to spend $35,000 on a camera. why do I have to go elsewhere if I want to buy the M9 titanium and make money eventually if I want to sell it one day If a sale is already in the stars then I would not buy this one. Looking from time to time at limited M editions which appeared over the years - as well as their resale value on westlicht.com and eBay, I have the gut feeling that not many of those currently go for more than the original price. That's my impression, but I'm sure that others here have a more complete view of the situation. Besides, the long-term value of the titanium M9 might suffer from the "digital rot factor" in addition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 5, 2011 Share #20 Â Posted May 5, 2011 It's a tool... Â Regards, Â Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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