jrc Posted January 30, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted January 30, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Luminous Landscape is offering a cheap downloadable instruction video on Lightroom, (four hours) with Michael Reichmann and Jeff Schewe. Judging from the stuff on Reichmann's video series, it'll be well worth the money (I have no connection to Reichmann except that I use his site, etc.) Â I gave Aperture a quick look at an Apple store, and it has some nice features but I don't think in the end that it holds up to Lightroom. And though I'm a heavy Mac user, I don't trust the single-platform Mac-only status of Aperture. It seems to me that serious photographers will want the capability of working on both platforms without learning different pieces of software (as with Word or Photoshop) and that the dual-platform program is more likely to become the standard. But, in the absence of Lightroom, I would certainly use Aperture. Â One downside is that in this version, 1.0, you will not be able to merge Lightroom libraries. There's an easy work-around, described by Reichmann on his site, but it's definately a negative. Supposedly the merge function will soon be added, as it was breifly in beta 3. Â JC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Englander Posted January 30, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted January 30, 2007 DaveEP, Take a look at Photoshop User - NAPP You now have stacking and great keywording in Lightroom in addition to dust-spotting and red-eye correction. Â Beta4.1 was very fast on my G4 12-inch laptop and Aperture could not even be loaded. The new ACR4 colors are very good for M8s. Without the kind of manipulation and databasing that LR has, I am not certain about C1 having any clear advantage any more. I guess the updates in the Spring will be as make-or-break important to C1 as it is to Aperture. Â Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulio Zanni Posted January 30, 2007 Share #23 Â Posted January 30, 2007 Would it be straightforward to import the Aperture library into Lightroom? Â Giulio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harjtt Posted January 30, 2007 Share #24  Posted January 30, 2007 A bit surprised by the price - was thinking that they would just replace the "$" with a "£" as everyone seems to do.I haven't touched Aperture so can;t comment on it, but I have been using Lightroom and will be looking to purchase this. Hopefully, if they've done their homework, everything should just migrate from the Beta's without a glitch.  HarjTT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 30, 2007 Share #25  Posted January 30, 2007 It seems to me that serious photographers will want the capability of working on both platforms without learning different pieces of software  Excuse me for disagreeing, but what is "serious" about wanting to use Windows? I am quite happy using just my Mac, as I have been doing for the last two years. I should have switched way earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canlogic Posted January 30, 2007 Share #26  Posted January 30, 2007 That was probably me  I was told that support would be added before Christmas.  It will be February on Thursday. Which is a long way after Christmas in my book.  If Apple don't add support before Lightroom hits the streets, they will have blown it completely for the majority of Mac/Leica users.  Just read this in the Aperture forum.  I just finished two weeks of work with a Leica M8 for a magazine assignment reviewing the new M8. As part of my tech research I spoke to a contact at Leica who told me: "we are working together with Apple to add support for our cameras in an upcoming update."  Leica hasn't even ironed out all the firmware issues in that camera yet so it doesn't seem that Aperture is too far behind in supporting that camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted January 30, 2007 Share #27  Posted January 30, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) DaveEP,Take a look at Photoshop User - NAPP You now have stacking and great keywording in Lightroom in addition to dust-spotting and red-eye correction.  Beta4.1 was very fast on my G4 12-inch laptop and Aperture could not even be loaded. The new ACR4 colors are very good for M8s. Without the kind of manipulation and databasing that LR has, I am not certain about C1 having any clear advantage any more. I guess the updates in the Spring will be as make-or-break important to C1 as it is to Aperture.  Joe  Great! so how do I get 4.1 instead of 4.0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 30, 2007 Share #28  Posted January 30, 2007 Dave, the latest version on their site is 4.1, although it only says 4 in the About box.  I want to get version 1, which apparently some people have. I want to check the M8 support before giving out my €199. What is up with that price, btw? It only costs $199, so why should it cost €199? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted January 30, 2007 Share #29  Posted January 30, 2007 Dave, the latest version on their site is 4.1, although it only says 4 in the About box. I want to get version 1, which apparently some people have. I want to check the M8 support before giving out my €199. What is up with that price, btw? It only costs $199, so why should it cost €199?  ....for the same reason it costs £125 ($250) in the UK....  Adobe are going to make the UK customer cover the cost of shipping to the UK, and cover the extra overhead that having a UK office introduces.  The same will apply to Europe. They are not going to run their local offices for free.  In addition, there is lots of margin built in for exchange rate movements. They won't ever want to get less than the US$ price...  Like it or hate it, this is the way it works with most international companies..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 30, 2007 Share #30 Â Posted January 30, 2007 Well, I choose to hate it. Some of these companies are making their software in Europe. Some of Apple's is made right here in Germany. And none of them are going to ship CDs across the ocean. The software will be sent over and printed here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted January 31, 2007 Share #31  Posted January 31, 2007 I hate it too, but we don't have much choice. That's the cost of living here.  Anyway - I was wondering if any one out there had BOTH a PowerBook (mine is a 1.67Ghz G4) AND a new MacBookPro (Core2Duo 2+Ghz), and can tell me what the perfomance difference is actually like with Lightroom?  Like many people, I can take a guess, but I would like to hear from some one who actually sees it with their own eyes  Is it twice as fast? 4 times faster? Just a bit faster? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted January 31, 2007 Share #32 Â Posted January 31, 2007 Uwe Steinmuller has a very nice diary on Lightroom at the Digital Outback Photo site. Digital Outback Photo. I have lightroom Beta 4 and there is no TAT tool that I can find. But based on what Uwe has described this has some of the control that Nikon put into their new Capture NX whereby you can click to work on regions. Â I for one am anxious to see what the version 1.0 really contains but it seems very cool indeed. Â Woody Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 31, 2007 Share #33 Â Posted January 31, 2007 I can't answer the Lightroom performance question directly, but a friend of mine just went from a PowerBook 15" 1.33GHz to a MacBook Pro Core2Duo 1.9GHz, I think, and it runs her programs a lot faster, more than twice, probably approaching 4x. I would think that on a CPU-bound program you would get the full 4x theoretical max, but Lightroom is also hard on the disk, so it may not load images much faster. Version 1 will make a difference though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted January 31, 2007 Share #34  Posted January 31, 2007 Another interesting point.... In the UK, downloads of V1 come from Ireland and are therefore charged at the Irish VAT rate of 21% rather than the 17.5% in the UK, thus making the cost £151.25! Looking at the NAPP and other videos there are a lot of useful and worthwhile enhancements over Beta4.1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted January 31, 2007 Share #35 Â Posted January 31, 2007 ... great cash cow making tutorials of sorta new applications....all raw convertors are basically the same in structure training the eye pays greater dividends Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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