nikolas Posted September 29, 2009 Share #21 Posted September 29, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) one more question. which the different of nokton mc black and mc schwarz thanks again, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 Hi nikolas, Take a look here Nokton 40mm on M8.... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
farnz Posted September 29, 2009 Share #22 Posted September 29, 2009 Nothing, Nikos, schwarz means black in German. Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Bébèrt Posted September 29, 2009 Share #23 Posted September 29, 2009 Nikolas, this is a super lens, versitile, sharp, bokeh and small. some examples: Autumn Sharp But I do think I would have gone for the Nokton 35mm f1.4 if it had been available at the time. This lens comes also in single and multi coated version and has the correct framelines/angle ratio. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolas Posted September 30, 2009 Share #24 Posted September 30, 2009 My German starts and stops to Hallo. But I love German quality. example M8. 35mm seems nice as well as it is small than 40mm But the closer in mm lens that I love to have is the elmarit 28 and i was thinking to keep some distance from 28mm to 40mm no to the 35mm. But i guess if 35 has the correct framelines is a reason to get that one. (I found one on e-bay.). But still i haven't fully understood what means 'correct framlines' . Is the lines we see in the viewfinder and with the 40 are in wrong position like we use a lens 90mm, and with the 35mm the lines are in the right position. Have I understood well? thanks, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Bébèrt Posted September 30, 2009 Share #25 Posted September 30, 2009 1- the flange of the lens pulls the frameline selector of the Leica M camera to the responding combination of framelines. For your M8 is this 24/35mm, 50/75mm and 28/90mm. 2- the Nokton 40mm (and also the summi-C 40mm) brings up the 50/75 framelines 3- the 24/35mm framelines are much closer to the Nokton 40mm than the 50/75 lines so you have to modify the flange on the lensmount get the right selection. 4- even when your Nokton 40mm is modified, there is still a difference between the 24/35 framelines in your viewer and the actual picture the lens will make on the sensor. Hope this is clear now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolas Posted September 30, 2009 Share #26 Posted September 30, 2009 Absolutely clear!! So, what I see with elmarit 21 is the 28/90. Thanks a lot 2bebert Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolas Posted September 30, 2009 Share #27 Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Back again!!! i am incline to the 35mm cause the framelines ( i am not good to file.), but what the different from mc to sc. Is the multi coated better in colour photography? I found in some e-shop the mc cheaper than sc.100Euros. Is the multi coated cheaper that sc? Thanks Edited September 30, 2009 by nikolas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Bébèrt Posted September 30, 2009 Share #28 Posted September 30, 2009 Single Coated is prefered by some for B&W photography, giving a softer image, more flare and less contrast. These are limited editions, so they come not so cheap. bwt, if u use your elmarit 21mm with the M8, you should use the 28mm external viewfinder. --crop factor 1.33 so 21mm multiplied with 1.33 equals 27.93mm-- (the 28/90 framelines are for a real 28mm lens) nice overview on VC lenses: Voigtlander Lenses Leica Mount Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolas Posted September 30, 2009 Share #29 Posted September 30, 2009 thanks for the grateful help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted September 30, 2009 Share #30 Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) I would give up with the Nokton, if I were you, and buy a Summicron-C 40/2 (2 is ok, no need for more). It is a far better lens and costs even less. Edited September 30, 2009 by epand56 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolas Posted October 1, 2009 Share #31 Posted October 1, 2009 f2 is quite enough fast for me. The point is that i can not find one, only with the leica cl. Is it indeed far better than nokton? , why is so cheap ? By the way that is great picture Enrico. it's taken by m8 i guess Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Bébèrt Posted October 1, 2009 Share #32 Posted October 1, 2009 Nikolas, I found one for sale, check your PM box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted October 1, 2009 Share #33 Posted October 1, 2009 f2 is quite enough fast for me. The point is that i can not find one, only with the leica cl. Is it indeed far better than nokton? , why is so cheap ?By the way that is great picture Enrico. it's taken by m8 i guess Yes, it is taken with my M8. The Cron-C 40 is a superb lens, much more valuable than the price it is usually sold. Don't know why is so cheap, but I'm happy I've bought mine for less than 250 dollars at the time. I had a Nokton 40/1.4 but in spite of being a very good lens it was not as good as the Cron, so in the end I've sold it. Mine was inclined to shift focus and was a single coated. If you look at the picture of Graeme Hutton in the people section of the forum, you will see the beauty and sharpness of the Summicron-C 40. He uses it 99% of the time. When I bought mine there were several on eBay. Maybe it is seasonal, like the greens... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted October 3, 2009 Share #34 Posted October 3, 2009 ... The Cron-C 40 is a superb lens, much more valuable than the price it is usually sold. Don't know why is so cheap... Enrico - And others, I have been looking into the Summicron-C 40mm f2.0; and I'm interested to hear that it is 'cheap', maybe - but it seems to be rare on the secondhand market too. But what about the Leica Summarit 40mm f2.4 ? Mr. Puts refers to it here : http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/lenses/lenses/lenses/page86.html But he omits it from his list of Leica lenses. In my reading about CL and CL cameras [which had the 40 mm framelines] the lens isn't mentioned, and I wondered if anyone can shed some light on this lens? Was it a production lens, and if so when, and for which camera if not the CL ? Puts rates the lens, but it seems to be an overlooked, even forgotten lens. Can anyone give more information? .............. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted October 3, 2009 Share #35 Posted October 3, 2009 Hi,I am a new (happy) leica user (M8) after some years with Nikon, (digital) Blad... If my understanding of Sean Reid review (fast lenses on Epson RF body) is good, old canon lenses or new CV are neither better or worst than leica lenses, just different (rendering) !!! Regards. Though this is an old post, I had not seen it before. There are performance differences among various lenses, of a given focal length, that do matter. But each individual will weight those differences in his or her own way. So, for example, a given lens may show higher resolution on center wide open but that difference may or may not be important to "photographer X". Another lens may be more prone to flare and show lower contrast as a result. That can cause one to prefer it or avoid it. The reviews on the R-D1 are older reviews. The M8 is more revealing of lens differences and the M9 more revealing still. And so on... Cheers, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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