Jeff S Posted March 19, 2011 Share #61 Posted March 19, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Two masterpieces : am7:40 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! sentinel | Flickr - Photo Sharing! Masterpieces? Eye of the beholder. I would have used either of these to illustrate my dislike for half fuzzy subjects. Doesn't make either of us right or wrong; just a matter of taste. To each his/her own. Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Hi Jeff S, Take a look here Is noctilux f0.95 worth the jump?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Leicakillen Posted March 19, 2011 Share #62 Posted March 19, 2011 [ Masterpieces? Yes! This is a very good example of something very special - go for it! /Anders 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardag Posted March 20, 2011 Share #63 Posted March 20, 2011 And if you do that, do also type Summilux 75 in flickr, Summilux 80 in flickr and Canon 85/1.2 in flickr. See what that brings you in selective focus and bokeh quality.Guess with what lens this was made: 75 and 85 lenses will for sure give you selective focus but also rather compressed pictures with little surrounding in it(unless you move far away from subject). One of the reasons to buy the noct is that you can shoot from 2-4 meters away and still get the short depth of field. Like this one: NYC etc--11 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrekeli Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share #64 Posted March 20, 2011 75 and 85 lenses will for sure give you selective focus but also rather compressed pictures with little surrounding in it(unless you move far away from subject). One of the reasons to buy the noct is that you can shoot from 2-4 meters away and still get the short depth of field.Like this one: NYC etc--11 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! that's the reason why I wanted to jump into the "crazy" nocti band... I can imagine and dream for few shots like that in my albums... thanks for sharing the link mardag... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted March 20, 2011 Share #65 Posted March 20, 2011 75 and 85 lenses will for sure give you selective focus but also rather compressed pictures with little surrounding in it(unless you move far away from subject). One of the reasons to buy the noct is that you can shoot from 2-4 meters away and still get the short depth of field.Like this one: NYC etc--11 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! I'll wait for a Noctilux 35 then Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrekeli Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share #66 Posted March 20, 2011 that's the reason why I wanted to jump into the "crazy" nocti band... I can imagine and dream for few shots like that in my albums... thanks for sharing the link mardag... my question now is then: Can we achieve similar (may be not exactly the same, but close enough) look of the images in the link, using 50lux asph or even the CV nokton 50/F1.1. The nokton is a serious contender with 1/10th of noct price. Is there anybody who has shot with nokton in a similar setting? Can you show me the link/the pics please? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted March 20, 2011 Share #67 Posted March 20, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) my question now is then:Can we achieve similar (may be not exactly the same, but close enough) look of the images in the link, using 50lux asph or even the CV nokton 50/F1.1. The nokton is a serious contender with 1/10th of noct price. Is there anybody who has shot with nokton in a similar setting? Can you show me the link/the pics please? thanks The Voigtlander Nokton 50 1.1 Review | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/146459-is-noctilux-f095-worth-the-jump/?do=findComment&comment=1620223'>More sharing options...
andrekeli Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share #68 Posted March 20, 2011 The Voigtlander Nokton 50 1.1 Review | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS Leica M6 + Voigtlander 50/1.1 Nokton + Fujifilm Reala 100 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! thanks otto for the link... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 20, 2011 Share #69 Posted March 20, 2011 I took my Harley Road King for a ride yesterday (M9 and Noctilux went with me). It was a lovely ride. The big Harley puts its own unique spin on rolling down the road. Had I taken my R1200GS or my K1200RS or my GSX-R1000... each of those would have changed the flavor of the ride in their own unique way. Each would have been a different experience. But even with those differences, much of those four rides would have been the same. Same roads. Same speed. Same scenery. Same weather. That's an interesting way to put it. When I was working too many hours and could ride only a little, I rode hard - back in those days a Cafe Racer. When the situation reversed and I wished time to slow down, to get the most of it, I rode what I built here. Today I will be using a pristine post-wwii Super Ikonta 6x9 on a walk about the lakes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted March 20, 2011 Share #70 Posted March 20, 2011 That's an interesting way to put it. When I was working too many hours and could ride only a little, I rode hard - back in those days a Cafe Racer. When the situation reversed and I wished time to slow down, to get the most of it, I rode what I built here. Today I will be using a pristine post-wwii Super Ikonta 6x9 on a walk about the lakes. Whoa! Seriously cool bike there, Pico! I, too, ran hard and fast for a lot of years. Loved the whole Ace Cafe scene (vicariously, as I live in the States). Lots of racetrack stuff. Burned off more than a couple of my nine-lives allotment. Anymore, older and wiser, I try and take it all in with a little more restraint. At least most the time... Sportbikes Behaving Well; the Harley, Not So Much Enjoy the walkabout today. Not unlike a Noct, that Super Ikonta with its big ole sheets of film emulsion laid back behind the lens will surely render its own unique signature! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted March 20, 2011 Share #71 Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) One owes it to themselves -not to mention the trained professionals that designed and manufactured this lens- to honour it by generating art with it. Edited March 20, 2011 by sfage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted March 20, 2011 Share #72 Posted March 20, 2011 my question now is then:Can we achieve similar (may be not exactly the same, but close enough) look of the images in the link, using 50lux asph or even the CV nokton 50/F1.1. My first roll of Tri-X through my new MP. 50 Lux, at 1.4 (no Exif, so I don't recall the shutter speed). Cheers John Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/146459-is-noctilux-f095-worth-the-jump/?do=findComment&comment=1620698'>More sharing options...
pico Posted March 20, 2011 Share #73 Posted March 20, 2011 Yuk. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted March 20, 2011 Share #74 Posted March 20, 2011 Exactly! It is one thing to want a narrow depth of field, but the results are often less than pleasing, or just plain weird. Cheers John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted March 20, 2011 Share #75 Posted March 20, 2011 50 Lux, at 1.4 John! You can't do that! What are you thinking!? If you want people to appreciate your image then you must pretend it was taken with a Noctilux at full aperture. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 21, 2011 Share #76 Posted March 21, 2011 my question now is then:Can we achieve similar (may be not exactly the same, but close enough) look of the images in the link, using 50lux asph or even the CV nokton 50/F1.1. The nokton is a serious contender with 1/10th of noct price...... thanks Hum... I don't have the Nokton (but time to time think of having one)... let me say that if one makes considerations like the above... is better NOT to buy a Noctilux 0,95... ... you'll remain with the persistent mood you could have spent better that huge amount of money: imagine... with LESS money one could buy the Lux 50 PLUS a CV 1,1 PLUS a fine used Summilux 75... (maybe, also a CV 35 1,2 fits into...) My idea is that if one signs the cheque for a Nocti 0,95... he MUST be 100% convinced that he's buying something that is on top of ANY OTHER speed lens... a matter of faith... no rational evaluation can justify it, imho. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 21, 2011 Share #77 Posted March 21, 2011 Hi Luigi Slightly different 'focus' from you. The super speed i.e. f/1.2 and faster were produced a) as statement lenses, i.e. we are better then Zeiss (and its /1.5 Sonnar) for Kodachrome 10 and 25 ISO The 0.95 is stretched at 0.95 on Leica's MTF chart, but it is still pretty good. If you want the lens as a statement i.e. my lens is bigger then your lens, then you need to buy it, note interchange/replace want and need as required. You will have to pack a lot more weight. If you have digital you dont need the aperture and you dont need high contrast either, an optically perfect type I cron may give you better pictures, it will hold the highlights. The Canon f/1.2 LTM from 1960 ish may have a signature even more desirable and they are cheap and pretty available, note I did not say high MTF. I'm content with my f1.4 35mm preasph lux & 12526 hood or 5cm cron type I & barndoor hood, and I use film, but I dont pack the 5cm often. Noel Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardag Posted March 21, 2011 Share #78 Posted March 21, 2011 If you have digital you dont need the aperture and you dont need high contrast either, an optically perfect type I cron may give you better pictures, it will hold the highlights. The Canon f/1.2 LTM from 1960 ish may have a signature even more desirable and they are cheap and pretty available, note I did not say high MTF. Noel There are many photographers that uses full aperture as part of their style: A magical winter wedding in Sweden Black Swan/White Swan - Orange County|Los Angeles Wedding Photographer Costa Smeralda | Lindísima - wedding photographer - bröllopsfotograf Linda Broström Cabrera I dissagree with that high contrast isn´t needed in digital, the more contrast wide open a lens have like (canon 85 1.2) the more crisp your images will look. The canon 50L for example is rather soft at 1.2, so If I would buy a high speed lens for my M9 I would go for the 0.95 because of that increase in contrast wide open compared to other high speed lenses. Markus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor AIS Posted March 21, 2011 Share #79 Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) To each his own. I think think the dog photo is brilliant. This really captures the dogs personalaiity and I don't think more depth of field would make it it any better. Diffferent not better. I disagree about the Canon 50 1.0L being low contrast. I owned for a period of time and have several samples with it @ F 1.0 that are neither soft or low in contrast. Dont get me wrong , I am not saying that the sharpness and contrast didint get a bump from stopping down but my copy of the Canon 50 1.0 was very usable wide open. While it's true when using film like kokachrome 25 (one of my personal favorites when it was made) fast glass was a bonus, I still feel, as many other's I am sure that the signature look of fast primes like the Canon 50 1.0 , the Nikkor 58 1.2, the Leica 50 1.0, .95 will always be in demand by those apprecaite what these types of attributes bring to the photographic image chain. And on the other side there will be always be those on the other side of the coin that think the wide open shots are bizarre and those that use these types of lens are just made for folks to show off. And than they will say that they could get just about the same results with....( ) Which may be true. But "just about" isnt the same "as". Life is all about compromise. but if you want a Leica 50 .95 for leica M, and you cant afford it I say look no where else. The pleasure of owning and using and seeing the results is hard to measure but must be factored in to the "price". Just holding a Noctilux makes me smile (I have the 50 1.0). I have 40 rolls of films, I am in the process of souping right now, and I bet half have been shot with the Lecia 50 1.0 Noct. Once in your possesion it's a hard lens not to reach for and take in the hand. http://rogaltacdesign.smugmug.com/Other/Abstract/IMG7075/652264846_gwRix-XL-2.jpg http://rogaltacdesign.smugmug.com/Other/Abstract/DSC4837/710446861_Uq7oh-XL-2.jpg Canon 50 1.0 L @1.0 on Canon 5D-2. Gregory Edited March 21, 2011 by Nikkor AIS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted March 21, 2011 Share #80 Posted March 21, 2011 Exactly! It is one thing to want a narrow depth of field, but the results are often less than pleasing, or just plain weird. Cheers John Very remarkable indeed that you carry a citation of Ansel Adams, whom I respect very much. But just one thing, after enjoying and studying his work thoroughly, one question remained hanging in my head: why o why is it necessary that in every photo, everything needs to be sharp: that is a landscape-specialist's bias Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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