sm23221 Posted March 16, 2011 Share #21 Posted March 16, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would use this trip as a test, take both and see which gets used the most. On your next trip you will know what to take without asking and without hesitation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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menos I M6 Posted March 16, 2011 Share #22 Posted March 16, 2011 You have two lenses? Take both cameras. I mostly use a 50 on the M8.2 and a 35 on a film body. Sometimes, I add a tele or super wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted March 16, 2011 Share #23 Posted March 16, 2011 Hi On a trip I normally take two small compact light cameras, Fed I, Barnack, Olympus, Canonet, not tragic if one fails or dissappears. Buy film and or batteries on Friday or Saturday am so you have enough for Sunday... Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted March 16, 2011 Share #24 Posted March 16, 2011 Seems to me that if you're so uncertain about this that you ask for guidance here, then no-one really has the definitive answer for you, and it's quite possible that you'll be disappointed regardless of whichever decision you finally make (by which I mean, take both and find you can't decide which to use for each shot; take the film camera and wish you could change ISO on the fly; take digital and wish you had the contemplative experience of using film... and so on). Anyway, for what it's worth, my experience of having an almost identical holiday on two successive years - the first with an M8 and the second with an M6 - was that I preferred the engagement with my surroundings and family more with the film camera, and the aesthetic results from film were also ultimately better. I know some people say that they don't chimp, and so on, but I found that even though I personally don't constantly chimp, I did find myself checking that things are working and that I 'got' the shot (somehow feels more critical when on holiday) when I was using the digital camera, and also found myself reviewing the day's shots in the evening and backing them up. All of this was ultimately distracting from the vacation itself, and took me away from actually experiencing and enjoying it directly. The film experience was more direct, less anxious, and as I said, the results were ultimately better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted March 16, 2011 Share #25 Posted March 16, 2011 Why not challenge yourself. If you are still having a difficult time making decisions, let a flipped coin make the decisions for you and work within the confines of what you are stuck with. Yes, I'm serious....sometimes we overthink these issues to the point of taking some of the fun out of our hobby. I happen to be of the school of thought that less is better, because it forces you to think before merrily snapping away. So, if you end up with film...take (at most) 2 lenses and one type of film. Use what you have to the best of your ability - and maybe, just maybe, you'll find the artist within you by creatively thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
italy74 Posted March 16, 2011 Share #26 Posted March 16, 2011 Film, I'd go with one of these: (others might suggest you which is better) a) Is N.C. a place where landscapes are a predominant part of your possible shots? Do you expect good weather ? >> Fuji Velvia 50 or Kodak Ektar 100 half and half with people? >> Kodak Ektar 100 or Portra 160 NC c) You like mostly dim-lit places? >> Portra 400 NC - in this case a ND filter is required, while I'm not sure you need it with the 100 or 160 film Let the magic of Leica / Zeiss lenses work for you ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted March 16, 2011 Share #27 Posted March 16, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Y'know, this thread had me thinking. The last time I left home to travel for more than a day or two with either film or digital could be counted on the fingers of one foot. When travelling to anywhere halfway interesting I take a "core" based around 1 or 2 M bodies or my Barnack. I will then add 2, 3 or 4 lenses, focal length again depending upon destination. Ditto film stock. I then add a digital or two, for macro, tele and stick-in-a-pocket-take-everywhere-hand-to-a-waiter-for-a-happy-snap-don't-care-if-I-lose-it use. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buranca Posted March 16, 2011 Share #28 Posted March 16, 2011 All of this was ultimately distracting from the vacation itself, and took me away from actually experiencing and enjoying it directly. Very true! Over the years I have "loaded up" everything so as to not miss "that shot." I found that it was nothing but a liability -and I ended up not just missing shots but frankly having nothing really to show! Last trip... I grabbed an old non-Leica film P&S from the shelf and a few rolls of BW400CN. The result: a lot more keepers making for a very relaxing and satisfying trip! At the end of the day though... Is this a vacation or a photo trip? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maurometallo Posted March 16, 2011 Share #29 Posted March 16, 2011 Film. Take just the B&W and one lens. Less is often more, try it! My thoughts entirely!... I have been doing this for the past 25 years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvsm Posted March 16, 2011 Share #30 Posted March 16, 2011 All of this was ultimately distracting from the vacation itself, and took me away from actually experiencing and enjoying it directly. So true. So easy to get distracted, with digital its very difficult not to. I do it too, much to the inevitable annoyance of my wife partnering me on trips. Ironically, she prefers digital however! The film experience was more direct, less anxious, and as I said, the results were ultimately better. Absolutely agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted March 16, 2011 Share #31 Posted March 16, 2011 The last trip my wife and I took was to Yellowstone. I took my film Ms and she took her digicam. We spent the other night selecting photos for a Blurb book. Many of our scenes were practically identicle but we tended to select the film version for the book because they looked so good. I won't post the link to the book here for fear of the Blurb server burning up as everyone tries to buy multiple copies, but I'll pm it to you. The finished article arrived today and we are thrilled with the result. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Shimwell Posted March 16, 2011 Share #32 Posted March 16, 2011 Take both so you won't have to decide and will have no regrets. Take both, so you won't be able to decide and will focus more on that decision than the pictures. Or toss a coin, heads for film and tails for digital and choose one lens only. If you take the M8 then turn off auto review. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Nomad64 Posted March 16, 2011 Share #33 Posted March 16, 2011 You didn't specify what you're going to shoot at. If you're into landscape I believe that Pan F and Velvia 50 should do well. If you're into street/portrait I wouldn't forget some HP5 or Tri-X. Happy shooting Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted March 16, 2011 Share #34 Posted March 16, 2011 There is only one argument against taking both: having to carry two cameras! If this argument doesn't grip with you, than just take both. It is not, like some argued, an ever going decision for one or the other during your trip! It is two cameras with different focal lengths, which you shoot together. If you have any doubts, if this is useful to you, try it out and make the spread between the two lenses more dramatic (so not 35, 50 and 90, but spreads like 28 and 90, etc…). On the last weekend, I used three bodies: M8.2 + 50mm MP + 35mm M7 + Motor + 90mm I ended up in a place, where my pushed BW film in the film bodies was too fast for the apertures, I wanted and the situations too tight for the cropped 50mm on the M8.2. So I ended up with shooting the 35mm mostly on the M8.2. The M7 with motor and 90 Cron was hanging over my shoulder and gave me a fantastic portrait and tele lens, whenever I needed it. I shot mostly digital on that day and one roll in each film body (made me rethink a second digital body again ;-) ). The one roll in each film body though can be enough, to have benefitted from the film bodies. The Leica cameras are so small and light, even this triple was comfortably carried in a small messenger bag, when not needed. It is A LOT more comfortable (and quicker), than constantly changing lenses. I think, it is necessary, to go with two bodies, as to prevent lens changing all the time and have the convenience of a backup in case of malfunction or loss (my M7 jammed a few days ago with the likely necessity, to go to Solms). Maybe the concept of using two cameras is new to you - try it out. Make sure, your choice of two lenses make sense on both cameras (crop factor on M8.2 is a major thinking point, which can help you or can get in your way - take two lenses, that even after changing lenses don't end in equal angles of view, so a 50 and 35mm would not be ideal, but a 50 and 28 is more interesting). Make sure, you don't go out in bright sunshine with pushed 3200 ISO film in the film body (if not planning, to do super stopped down quick shooting, which can also be very interesting for a change). Oh … and btw - it is a lot more convenient and quicker, to change lenses between bodies, than changing lenses between camera and bags (no fiddling with caps, just swapping), if that's what you're into ;-) Again - all valid, only, if you are not constrained to one body, one camera. Anyway - enjoy the holiday and stop thinking about cameras and stuff as soon, as the trip starts ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyler. Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share #35 Posted March 17, 2011 Thank you everybody for all of your responses. I think I am going to take just film. One more question- what's the deal with film and xrays at the airport? I heard it's fine to go through the carry on xray but not the checked luggage one. Is this true? Thanks, Kyle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted March 17, 2011 Share #36 Posted March 17, 2011 Thank you everybody for all of your responses. I think I am going to take just film. One more question- what's the deal with film and xrays at the airport? I heard it's fine to go through the carry on xray but not the checked luggage one. Is this true? Thanks, Kyle You'll be fine with carry-on. Don't put it in checked luggage. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiver Posted March 20, 2011 Share #37 Posted March 20, 2011 Yeah, don't sweat about the film in carry-on luggage. Just make sure that it never gets into check-in luggage. I sometimes miss the simplicity of only having one camera. Even though I 'need' a range of cameras and lenses for my work and personal shooting, using one camera and one lens only really simplifies matters. You might miss shots that you'd get with more gear, but you worry less about carrying, changing lenses, etc. I went to Japan last year with the M9 and the Ricoh GRD III. Each day I took an average of 600 photos. Yes, 600. Most were just snapshots of wherever we were, whatever we were doing, but the almost minute by minute recording of our paths made recollection of the trip very easy. This would never have happened with film. But the next time I go to Japan, I am considering a film-primary trip. My M9 images, as glorious as they are, lack something that I can only get with film. I would shoot less images, maybe one roll per day, but the images would be quite different, I think. (But I'd still take the GRD III). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyler. Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share #38 Posted March 21, 2011 Thank you all for the advice. Right now is my last day of my vacation, and I have thoroughly enjoyed shooting with just my M6, two lenses, and some film. I find it doesnt take away from the trip as digital tends to do, and I am thinking about my shots more with film. So far I have only shot about 2 rolls! the first roll was fp4 and today I am going to finish a roll of ektar. Thank you, Kyle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm23221 Posted March 21, 2011 Share #39 Posted March 21, 2011 Glad it worked out. Perhaps you could post a few of your best shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted March 21, 2011 Share #40 Posted March 21, 2011 Going to Rome in may for a week. M3 and Summarit 50/1.5 and a dozen or so rolls of XP2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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