Shootist Posted January 27, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted January 27, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just got my M8 2 days ago. The serial # starts with 31. Is this a first run with the updated applied or a second run with updates made during production. Â So I guess the real question is. For those that bought early what are the first 2 # of the serial # on your M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Hi Shootist, Take a look here Serial # and production date. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 27, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted January 27, 2007 I believe they all start with 310 so far. The next four digits seem to be the serial number, and in time the 0 might get taken over. Numbers which have been posted on this forum have ranged from 0500 to 3000 or so. Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share #3  Posted January 27, 2007 I believe they all start with 310 so far. The next four digits seem to be the serial number, and in time the 0 might get taken over. Numbers which have been posted on this forum have ranged from 0500 to 3000 or so. scott Thanks for the reply Scott Well I guess mine must be from the first production run. The complete # is 3100977. Other then a slight back focus it's working flawlessly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
osera Posted January 27, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted January 27, 2007 The numbers don't seem to accurately reflect production date, at least at this stage. I have a first batch camera with the last 4 of 26xx. All the S/N's I've seen start with 310. Â There seem to be plenty of second batch cameras with numbers lower than my 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share #5  Posted January 27, 2007 The numbers don't seem to accurately reflect production date, at least at this stage. I have a first batch camera with the last 4 of 26xx. All the S/N's I've seen start with 310. There seem to be plenty of second batch cameras with numbers lower than my 1st.  Well that would be keeping with the Leica tradition. Could be there is a country code in there somewhere also. I know Nikon does that but that is because Nikon warranties are only good in the country of purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gesper Posted January 27, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted January 27, 2007 Mine number is almost exactly the same as yours and it was difinitely the first batch (purchased November 11 from B&H)). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Flatline Posted January 27, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted January 27, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mine is 3100498, which shipped with 1.09 firmware and the Leica info about the two free IR filters - thus identifying it as something that came from the factory after the initial problems were identified, and solutions discovered. I bought it in the US from a major retailer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
popum Posted January 27, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted January 27, 2007 Mine arrived yesterday and is numbered 53xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted January 27, 2007 Share #9 Â Posted January 27, 2007 Mine arrived on Thursday and it is 2691 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share #10 Â Posted January 27, 2007 There seems to be no rheme or reason for the numbering. barjohn did you get yours from the Proshop that you posted about? That is where mine came from and I also got it Thursday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 27, 2007 Share #11 Â Posted January 27, 2007 Mine from November 6th is 31022xx. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
osera Posted January 27, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted January 27, 2007 Well, they certainly all over the place, at least in this general range. Obviously these numbers will not be useful to distinguish the first batch subsequent batches. Not really a big deal, I suppose, but it would have been a bit easier. Â Although I suppose we don't really know if there is going to be any difference between an early camera that has been sent to Solms and a later camera... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Roggen Posted January 27, 2007 Share #13 Â Posted January 27, 2007 I used to have a 31053xx before it broke down. They gave me a new one with number 31052xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted January 27, 2007 Share #14 Â Posted January 27, 2007 This topic has been discussed ad nauseam for years on the forum. It's obsessive-compulsive to worry about the serial number because it has no bearing on the camera's reliability and they aren't assigned consecutively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share #15 Â Posted January 27, 2007 This topic has been discussed ad nauseam for years on the forum. It's obsessive-compulsive to worry about the serial number because it has no bearing on the camera's reliability and they aren't assigned consecutively. Excuse me but just how do you know they aren't assigned consecutively. That would make giving anything a serial number very difficult. Hey Joe did we use 3107834 yet? How about 3100765. Totally ridiculous. About the only thing I can think of since the serial # is on the flash shoe is that they manufacture the flash shoes in lots and give them a serial number. Then those flash shoes get placed on bodies during the final assembly at random. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami G Posted January 27, 2007 Share #16 Â Posted January 27, 2007 are serial numbers of silver and black bodies different? mine silver from yesterday (reached my dealer a week ago already) and sn is 31020xx. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted January 27, 2007 Share #17 Â Posted January 27, 2007 Excuse me but just how do you know they aren't assigned consecutively. That would make giving anything a serial number very difficult. Hey Joe did we use 3107834 yet? How about 3100765.Totally ridiculous. About the only thing I can think of since the serial # is on the flash shoe is that they manufacture the flash shoes in lots and give them a serial number. Then those flash shoes get placed on bodies during the final assembly at random. Â Â Ed, Â Leica manufactures in hand-assembled batches and the serial numbers are not only on the flash shoe but also on UPC stickers placed on the packaging (and I believe the number may also be recorded in the camera's firmware). These are typically bagged together and pulled at the end of assembly. Once the the shoe and stickers are assigned to a camera the bar code is read and recorded for manufacturing date, etc. Â I haven't been to the Leica plant, but I have been to several power tool factories that use this system for low-volume production -- including one in Germany. All use essential the same method. In fact, it was explained to me that consecutive numbering is actually more difficult to accomplish with this type of manufacturing and is best used on high-volume products that have automated assembly. Â Larry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share #18 Â Posted January 28, 2007 Ed, Â Leica manufactures in hand-assembled batches and the serial numbers are not only on the flash shoe but also on UPC stickers placed on the packaging (and I believe the number may also be recorded in the camera's firmware). These are typically bagged together and pulled at the end of assembly. Once the the shoe and stickers are assigned to a camera the bar code is read and recorded for manufacturing date, etc. Â I haven't been to the Leica plant, but I have been to several power tool factories that use this system for low-volume production -- including one in Germany. All use essential the same method. In fact, it was explained to me that consecutive numbering is actually more difficult to accomplish with this type of manufacturing and is best used on high-volume products that have automated assembly. Â Larry Thanks for the clarification Larry. Sounds good. Yes the serial # is in the firmware and is put in the EXIF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted January 28, 2007 Share #19 Â Posted January 28, 2007 310039x,with 1.09 software. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Cron Posted January 28, 2007 Share #20 Â Posted January 28, 2007 "Mine is 3100498, ... with 1.09 firmware and ... info about the two free IR filters - thus identifying it as something that came from the factory after the initial problems were identified ...."Â The various build ranges and their respective M8 serial numbers are interesting. On Wednesday, October 4, 2006, I used a M8 with serial number 3100486, only 12 units from Iron Flatline's, at the Leica Academy in Germany. A colleague next to me used a M8 with serial number 3100762. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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