thpeters Posted January 25, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted January 25, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I need some information, Â In a leica folder I have read that the 135 mm lens not recommended for Leica M8 due to equivalent focal length of 180 mm. Â Can somebody give me some help here and explain it in a different way to me, I am still struggling with it. Â I like to buy that lens for my M8 Â Thanks in advance, Â Theo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Hi thpeters, Take a look here Leica Apo-Telyt-M 135 mm f/3.4. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
carstenw Posted January 25, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted January 25, 2007 It will be hard to focus, since the viewfinder of the Leica M cameras do not get magnified with longer focal lengths, like an SLR. There is also no 135mm frame in the M8. I would encourage you to study the 90mm frame in your M8 and try to imagine 135mm. The picture is very small. Do you have a local dealer who might have a 135 you could try? Â I believe it is Marco who has this lens, and finds it acceptable to focus with the 1.25x magnifier. I personally own an older 135/2.8 which has magnifying glasses built onto the lens, thus matching the view with the 90mm frame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted January 25, 2007 Share #3 Â Posted January 25, 2007 Andy Piper has shown several great shots taken with the Tele-Elmar 135mm on an M8. His comment was to imagine frame lines twice the size of the RF patch. Â - C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ady Posted January 25, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted January 25, 2007 I have the lens and tried it on my M8. It works better than ecpected. The frame is a little bigger than the central focussing frame and the pictures as sharp as with every Leica lens. Ady Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Campbell Posted January 25, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted January 25, 2007 I have the tele-elmar 135 and have been very pleasantly surprised (I bought iit on a lark - they are available for very little money by Leica standards). I'm in the process of sorting through the framing issues - I'll post once I come up with an option that works. Â I used to own the 135 f2.8 with "glasses"- It's quite bulky so it's not likely that it would find its way into my bag. Â I'm normally a wide shooter, so I really have been surprised at how well I like the 135. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted January 25, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted January 25, 2007 I had the 135 Apo-Telyt and I loved its image quality, but in the end I sold it because I found it was quite difficult to get precise framing and focussing. You can use the LCD review to adjust both but for me it was really a hit and miss. Â At that time I didn't have the 1.25x magnifier, which I believe could help quite a bit, but I prefer to limit myself to the 90 Apo, much much easier to frame and focus. I have to say though that I tend to use the DMR for anything longer than 100mm and if I didn't have an SLR I would have kept the 135. Â The Apo-Telyt is very sharp and contrasty even wide open, with beautiful colors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtmerideth Posted January 25, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted January 25, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Theo, I have the APO 135 and is is harder to focus that the 90mm consistently. Terry Cioni who live in BC uses this focal length to great advantage and you can see his photos on Flickr. Â I think the key is two things. Â Do you focus a range finder well? (young eyes help) Are a great deal of you subjects at infinity? Â If your answer is yes to both, then it's a no brainer. Â I really enjoy the focal length of 180 on the M8 and don't mind the challenge.g. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thpeters Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share #8 Â Posted January 25, 2007 Hi to all of you, Â Thanks for all the information sofar,I really apriciate it,keep it coming. Â For "Gtmerideth" I know the rangefinder well, had a Leica M4 for 20 years and yes I dont mind the challenge. Â My eyes are still very good.. (except for reading)... Â Theo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c6gowin Posted January 26, 2007 Share #9 Â Posted January 26, 2007 I am interesting in buying this lens and have been watching for a deal on a used copy. I have been very happy with the 90AA and would like something longer for the odd occasion (hence my desire of used price). Â However, I found followin statement on Leica US website (pdf regarding 6 bit coding) a bit strange. Â "The only lens in the current range that will not be given a 6-bit coding is the LEICA APO-TELYT-M 135 mm f/3.4. It is not codable later, either, as its extension factor of 1.33 makes it unsuitable for use on the planned digital M camera." Â Gowin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 26, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted January 26, 2007 Mark, that is just because they don't want to recommend a lens which is hard to focus and frame. With a tele lens, I expect that the filter won't result in cyan corners anyway, so it should work fine. Already the 50mm lenses don't get cyan corners, according to reports and Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted January 26, 2007 Share #11 Â Posted January 26, 2007 Mark, that is just because they don't want to recommend a lens which is hard to focus and frame. With a tele lens, I expect that the filter won't result in cyan corners anyway, so it should work fine. Already the 50mm lenses don't get cyan corners, according to reports and Leica. Â Elmarit-style goggles on the Apo-Telyt would solve the problems of focusing and framing. The weight would still be less than that of the Elmarit. Are you listening, Leica? Â The old man from the Age of Intelligent Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c6gowin Posted January 26, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted January 26, 2007 ...they don't want to recommend a lens which is hard to focus and frame... Â Carsten, you make a good point. Focusing at medium distances will be the most difficult (at least that is the case with my 90AA). Â I had an experience recently where I was out the M8 and came across an Osprey perched in a tree eating a fish. I switched to the 90AA and fired off some shots all the while concentrating on focus from shot to shot. The distance was close to, but short of infinity focus (~40 ft) and being late in the day there wasn't enough light to stop down for increased depth of field. Even with the 1.25x magnifier, focusing was difficult. I went back to my vehicle and grabbed the 5D with 70-200 f2.8 IS (didn't have the 500 f4 with me) and it was shocking to look through the viewfinder. The big bright magnified image was stunning and even more of surprise because I hadn't hardly picked up the 5D since I got the M8 Nov 6th. I made numerous photos swapping back and forth between the M8 and 5D and really enjoyed the challange of using the M8 in this situation. The 5D is much better suited to telephoto work, but I still enjoyed using the M8 very much. In fact, this experience reinforced my desire to get the 135 APO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thpeters Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share #13  Posted January 26, 2007 I am interesting in buying this lens and have been watching for a deal on a used copy. I have been very happy with the 90AA and would like something longer for the odd occasion (hence my desire of used price). However, I found followin statement on Leica US website (pdf regarding 6 bit coding) a bit strange.  "The only lens in the current range that will not be given a 6-bit coding is the LEICA APO-TELYT-M 135 mm f/3.4. It is not codable later, either, as its extension factor of 1.33 makes it unsuitable for use on the planned digital M camera."  Gowin  What is the reason that Leica is or can NOT code that lens?  Very strange for me also at this moment.  Theo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 27, 2007 Share #14 Â Posted January 27, 2007 Theo, what is the reason to code it? They don't store aperture, and if it has no vignetting and no cyan corner shift, then there is no need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thpeters Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share #15 Â Posted January 27, 2007 Thanks for explaining that. Â Still I like to buy the lens.. Â Theo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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