mhoutman Posted January 29, 2007 Share #141 Posted January 29, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1. One M8, Second generation, Jan. 2007 2. No problems Michiel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Hi mhoutman, Take a look here Poll: M8 Freezing/Failures. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
eudemian Posted January 29, 2007 Share #142 Posted January 29, 2007 M8 arrived Thursday and I have shot about 600 photo's so far and no problems, batteries have run down three times each and no lockups. Hope this helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted January 29, 2007 Share #143 Posted January 29, 2007 1. One M8. First gen. 2. No problems except the banding and magenta. Willy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share #144 Posted January 29, 2007 Thanks to everyone for responding. This is last call <G> as I plan to close the poll at about 9:00 AM tomorrow. I'd love to hear from more M8 owners between now and then. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richedg Posted January 29, 2007 Share #145 Posted January 29, 2007 Hi Shane, I have a first generation M8 purchased before the end of Nov 06. It has had the fix. I have had one ocassion when the camera top LCD stopped working, the shutter stopped operating. The Menu and Set button worked. I removed the battery and it seemed to fix the problem for a few minutes then the problem reurned. i again removed the battery and the problem stopped an so far has not returned. I have had one SD card that the camera said was locked when it clearly was not locked. After a few repeats of this behaviour I switched to another card and have had no further problems. I do think that the M8 is sensitive to the apparent lock on SD cards. The lock on the card that gave a problem is very hard to move so it is not apparent why the camera thought it was locked. I have had a few (2-3) frames where the picture had a strong magenta pink color cast over the whole frame. Not sure why. on the whole a wonderful camera and I am having lots of fun with it. I have a 47 year old 90mm Elmarit and it takes great photos! Best wishes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 30, 2007 Share #146 Posted January 30, 2007 Body 1 version 1.06 had battery issues that if I turned off would not turn back on without replacing the battery. Than complete failure on LCD and everything else in the middle of a shot, In a golf cart so static not a issue. Body 2 version 1.06 no battery issue but was exchanged for 1.09 by dealer Body 3 1.09 from dealer same as body 1 with battery condition not being accurate and replce battery. Message from leica ws there is a bug in the firmware that the indicator is sticking at full bars even though the battery can be half empty. Fix is leave camera on all night and drain battery completely and the camera resets itself than charge and replace and issue is now gone and I did this with both batteries and camera's . This bug will be fixed in 1.10 coming soon . this was a not from my Leica rep in my area from Solms on this issue and that is what Solms suggested . i did post a thread on this battery condition but not many folks read it and it really should have ben a sticky on what to do. i think the main issue is people are thinking they have a full battery because the indicator says so but do not. And than it shuts down and replacing the battery kicks it back in. BTW a lot of drain on battery shooting DNG and Jpegs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted February 4, 2007 Share #147 Posted February 4, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have to change my answers since I have experienced a lockup today for the first time: 1 - 1 2 - Yes, second generation 3 - Yes 8 - Didn't notice the battery level right before it happened. Don't believe static electricity was in play. Happened outside, temperature in the high forties (Fahrenheit), 90+% humidity but no rain, with full battery, after shooting for 30 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share #148 Posted February 5, 2007 I've started analyzing the responses but I've been asked to re-open this survey. So, if anyone would like to chime in between now and 9:00 Am EST on Monday, please feel free. Then I need to close this in order to tally, etc. for an update to an article. Please feel free to reply whether your M8 has or has not experienced the problem described in my first post. Please only post responses to the questions here, we can discuss aspects on another thread if needed. Thanks, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaubel Posted February 5, 2007 Share #149 Posted February 5, 2007 Sean No freezing failure so far, after 300 shots Serial #55xx fresh from Calumet on Feb 1st. Version 1.09 Rex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Jones Posted February 5, 2007 Share #150 Posted February 5, 2007 Here are the poll questions, please simply number your replies to match the questions. 1. How many M8s have you either owned or used regularly for more than a week? ONE camera 2. Have any of these cameras shown the behavior described above? Please answer for each camera and note if the camera is "first' or "second" generation. YES, one camera 3. If yes to #2, did the camera return to normal operation after it was turned off and its battery removed briefly and reinstalled? Unfortunately, NO 4. If yes to #2, did the camera return to normal operation after it was turned off and a fresh battery was installed? Don't know, only one battery but did verify battery voltage OK. 5. If yes to #2, did the camera return to normal operation after it was turned off, left without a battery installed for a longer period of time and then had the battery reinstalled? If so, how long was the interval where it sat with no battery? No battery overnight, and after the battery was left in the camera until dead, another 4 hours. STILL INOPERATIVE. 6. If yes to #2, did the camera fail to return to normal operation after various steps had been taken? Did the camera need to be returned to Leica? YES 7. If yes to #6, did Leica indicate what needed to be repaired on your camera. NOT SENT YET - WILL CALL NJ TOMORROW 8. If yes to #2, did you note the battery level on the camera just before it showed this behavior? What was the level? Did you note static electricity in the area or any other factors that might be relevant? Battery Level full, just off charge maybe 1 day and 10 shots. Was left on accidently in bag but have done this before with no apparent problems. Auto off set for 5 minutes. 9. If yes to #2, do you recall what SD card you were using when the camera showed this behavior? Of so, please list. Lexar Pro 133X Please see my other comments in the post "Help - my M8 has died" for other "interesting " camera behavior." Thank you for your efforts with Leica - I wish they would address this issue - or say SOMETHING to the many folks who have persevered. Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob41 Posted February 5, 2007 Share #151 Posted February 5, 2007 1. Owned and used regularly one M8 for more than 2 weeks. 2. My M8 showed the behavior described above once. 3. The camera returned to normal operation after it was turned off and its battery removed briefly and reinstalled. 4. No tripod used. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ustein Posted February 5, 2007 Share #152 Posted February 5, 2007 1. 2 (1 first generation and one 1.09) 2. both 3. yes 4. normal battery did 5. did not try 6. no 7. n/a 8. n/a Uwe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted February 5, 2007 Share #153 Posted February 5, 2007 1) 1 M8, 1st generation, v1.06 received on Nov 7, 2006, self updated to v1.09 in Dec 06. 2) No, not even once as what you described. * Though I would supplement that, mine has experienced sudden stop down twice in its first month when I press the shutter to shot while the on/off knob is switched and positioned accidentally somewhere between S and C. I aware of this symptom and pay special attention to the knob position and everything goes great and smooth ever since. And I do hope this would continue for many many years to come. Cheers Matthew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldh Posted February 5, 2007 Share #154 Posted February 5, 2007 Sean. Thanks for taking this up. My replies are 1. One 2. Yes. Second generation 3. No 4. No 5. No. I tried several periods up to two hours 6. Yes and yes 7. Not yet. Has only just been returned 8. Showed three bars, almost full I would say. No static or other relevant factors 9. See thread I started "help. My Leica has died". Ronnie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrylgreenhill Posted February 5, 2007 Share #155 Posted February 5, 2007 Sean: 1. one 2. One, first generation 3. Yes 4. Yes 5. No 6. No 7. Sent note to Leica in NJ, waiting for a response 8. I have two batteries. The lock up has occurred two times in two days. The first battery was 3/4 full, and the second battery was completely full. The lock-up would be shown by a failure of the controls on the M8 to respond. The shutter would not fire, and the top panel on-off switch did not function. Turning the top panel rotatry control to the off position did not shut down the top panel LCD showing battery status and remaining shots. Best, Larry Greenhill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted February 5, 2007 Share #156 Posted February 5, 2007 1. One. 2. No, second gen. Cheers P.S. I used a "first generation" sample for just less than a week. No freezing either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablop Posted February 5, 2007 Share #157 Posted February 5, 2007 1. One M8, first generation nov 2006- updated in Solms in Jan. 2007 2. No problems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometsoft Posted February 5, 2007 Share #158 Posted February 5, 2007 1. 1 2. 0 second generation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englander Posted February 6, 2007 Share #159 Posted February 6, 2007 1. Two 2. Yes. Both cameras were second generation. First camera failed in format D, never recovered completely. Second camera obtained when first was returned is still running (but boy am I gun-shy now) 3. NO 4. NO 5. NO 6. YES, camera failed to return to normal operation. YES, Camera returned to dealer and then to Leica. 7. Do not know 8. Battery was full. Second battery full and straight from charger. Possibly static electricity from synthetic carpet, but I didn’t notice any. Camera was on metal Gitzo tripod for interior shots. Also cable release was used. First few shots of interior were fine, then it stopped showing playback. I thought I might not have pressed the shutter release. Replaced cable release with another and nothing happened at all. Since I could not get menus, I could not use the rundown routine so I left the camera without battery for 3 days. Recharged battery. Never got menus or full playback. If camera was turned on and then battery inserted, base plate replaced, then camera would take pictures just fine, with instant replay but no play, set or menu. Number of exposures and battery level showed on top. If left “on” following this procedure, camera would get warm but not hot after an hour or so. If camera was turned off at any time, it could only be made to take pictures by removing the battery, turning the camera on and then replacing the battery. All the files produced during this procedure were DNG & JPG and all seem fine. Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share #160 Posted February 6, 2007 Thanks everyone. This poll is now closed so that I can sort out the data. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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