mzcloud Posted January 24, 2011 Share #1 Posted January 24, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have been using my M8.2 for a while. Not until recently I decided to pick up a double stroke M3 to try some of my lens on a film camera. Last time I shot film was 10 years ago with Nikon F100 which is fully automatic. Have no experiences with these manual M3s. Not sure what is going on with the film I shot. It is not expired. Was developed at a local place in Toronto and provided a film scan to CD. Anyone know what is wrong? It was shot with 50 summilux v1. I used the lens on my M8.2 and had no problems at all. Thanks a lot for your help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scsambrook Posted January 24, 2011 Share #2 Posted January 24, 2011 Michael, I'm not sure anything's wrong with your M3. I think I'd start by looking at the negatives to see if they indicate a processing fault. If that's the cause, then the entire film through to the edge will show some sort of abnormal colour cast. Comparing to another processed film will show any difference. I don't know enough about the scanning/printing process to say if the fault might be there. Did you use a lightmeter? Maybe a large exposure error could be to blame, but the samples don't look typical of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted January 24, 2011 Share #3 Posted January 24, 2011 They're probably poorly scanned by your lab. Try another film another place. I've tweaked it a bit here: Pete [ATTACH]241089[/ATTACH] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted January 24, 2011 Share #4 Posted January 24, 2011 I increased the contrast and tried to balance the colour a little better. It looks like you have some mixed artificial and natural light. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Xmas Posted January 24, 2011 Share #6 Posted January 24, 2011 Hi You need good quality jewelers loupe, and desirably a light table, to look at negatives. Try a mono C41 film, e.g. Ilford XP2, use a different mini lab. Check the cameras rfdr at infinity, high contrast item at 1km or more. Check the shutter at 1/15 makes a ping pong noise. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 24, 2011 Share #7 Posted January 24, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) You often need to colour balance a scanned negative as well as adjusting curves and levels. Are these scans the ones that the processing shop did? Are you sure your exposure was correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted January 24, 2011 Share #8 Posted January 24, 2011 Good advice so far, with which I agree. As a matter of interest, however, what do you think is wrong with it? Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzcloud Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share #9 Posted January 24, 2011 scsambook, Pete, Noel, Andy, Bill. Thanks for all your inputs Even when you adjust the pictures, they do not look very nice. I expected film will look nicer than my digital M8.2 with the same lens. I just made a trip to Gerry @ Kindermann in Canada who does work on old Leica cameras. Heard he is a very reputable technican. He looked at the pictures and said has not seen anything like this before, his conclusion is that the photos are overexposed because the shutter speed is off. I left it with him for a CLA and should be completed within 3 weeks. Will post some new photos when my camera is all fixed up. So far, my film experience has not been pleasing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor AIS Posted January 24, 2011 Share #10 Posted January 24, 2011 Without seeing the negatives Its's tough to know. Me thinks that the lab might have used developer that needed refreashing. A good lab will run a test strip as a controll. have you asked them? Another issue might be the scanning as other as mentioned. And I am not sure of your exposer. Or it could be a combination of all these factors. I did notice that there is plenty of dust on the scans which is ... not good. And to me shows sloppy lab practices. Every step of the image chain must be "solid" in order to get optimal results. Personally, I have no problem using expired film as long as all the other links are in line. Leica M3 with 12 ASPH with 160 Film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 24, 2011 Share #11 Posted January 24, 2011 I have done a 10 second "Auto White Balance" and curves tweak (same curve on both shots) and have come up with this. I have no idea what the colours really were, but these look pretty natural to me. This leads me to believe that there isn't much wrong with the processing. But... I have to say that the scans are pretty dusty, so if you can find an alternative processor in your town, I would try them next time. [ATTACH]241187[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]241186[/ATTACH] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
italy74 Posted January 25, 2011 Share #12 Posted January 25, 2011 Michael my personal opinion - NOT based on experience rather on a picture who looks very similar to you is that the lab had a problem, not you. A few days ago I was reading an english book about the Practical Zone System and one of the issues related to development was just this. I can't tell you exactly if the image was underdeveloped or viceversa - others are much more expert than me, but I remember I saw exactly an image like yours with the precise address of the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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