madaneerg Posted January 22, 2011 Share #1 Posted January 22, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) For my M8 is there a "poor mans" Leica Noctilux-M 50mm? I want something affordable that I can shoot in low light. Thanks for the insight! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gmccauley Posted January 22, 2011 Share #2 Posted January 22, 2011 Depends on your definition of "poor" but for $1000 the Voigtlaender Nokton 50 f1.1 is just one tenth the price of the Noctilux. I had one for Xmas and love it for its light gathering and narrow depth of field. Suggest you search the forums for comments - generally positive I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efix Posted January 22, 2011 Share #3 Posted January 22, 2011 For a 50mm-equivalent field-of-view take the Nokton 35/1.2. Has a very decent reputation, can be had around USD 1k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madaneerg Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted January 22, 2011 which would be a better all-rounder the 35 or the 50? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted January 23, 2011 Share #5 Posted January 23, 2011 Which would be a better all-rounder, the 35 or the 50? For M9 or analog M, it's a matter of personal preference. For M8, it's 35 mm ... also 28 mm would be fine as an all-round lens on the M8 but isn't available in Noctilux-like speeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fluff Posted January 23, 2011 Share #6 Posted January 23, 2011 As an 'all-rounder', the 35. I've had, and returned, two of the 50's and both exhibited major focus shift as you stopped down. Performance at f1.1 was pretty good, but you'd never use the middle apertures unless you liked people's ears being in focus instead of their eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted January 25, 2011 Share #7 Posted January 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) The CV 35/1.2 is an excellent lens but if you want speed for shooting in low light you might also consider the Canon 50/0.95 (you need to find one that's been converted to M-mount) or the Canon 50/1.2 (Leica screw mount). Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhrads Posted January 25, 2011 Share #8 Posted January 25, 2011 I know I'm going to take heat for this, but I loved my Canon 0.95 modified for M mount. It's a nice lens, although some bash it as being mushy, I enjoyed it. Good examples can be found on ebay either modified or modifiable by a qualified tech. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 25, 2011 Share #9 Posted January 25, 2011 I know I'm going to take heat for this, but I loved my Canon 0.95 modified for M mount. It's a nice lens, although some bash it as being mushy, I enjoyed it. Good examples can be found on ebay either modified or modifiable by a qualified tech. Beware of modified Canon 0.95s. Some are hack jobs and do not focus properly. FWIW, I've had three of the lenses intended for 7S models, and still have two. I wish I could say I am impressed. It is possible that variability-of-build quality has put three duds in my hands because I have seen one photographer's work which was sharp enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted January 25, 2011 Share #10 Posted January 25, 2011 Beware of modified Canon 0.95s. Some are hack jobs and do not focus properly. FWIW, I've had three of the lenses intended for 7S models, and still have two. I wish I could say I am impressed. It is possible that variability-of-build quality has put three duds in my hands because I have seen one photographer's work which was sharp enough. Hi If you have an M8 a f1.4 (or 1.5) 3.5 or 5cm may be better compromise than a super speed, or F/2 is you go to 28mm.. Ask the M8 people what they use. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 26, 2011 Share #11 Posted January 26, 2011 Hi If you have an M8 a f1.4 (or 1.5) 3.5 or 5cm may be better compromise than a super speed, or F/2 is you go to 28mm..l Noel, my samples of the Canon 0.95 are unacceptable from center to edge. No cropping helps. As I wrote, it might just be my bad luck. That said, I plan to get one last sample to try for the last time. At $1700 each, I can gamble against the Noctilux - I fear it is a losing effort. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted January 26, 2011 Share #12 Posted January 26, 2011 I recently used a 50mm Konica Hexanon f/1.2 for a few weeks and cannot praise it enough. Only complaint is that bokehs during the day are a little "busy". But priced at ~$2500, its more reasonable than the Nocti. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor AIS Posted January 26, 2011 Share #13 Posted January 26, 2011 Here are a couple of sample images of the Nocton next to Noctilux. And one by it self. I would get 50 1.1 Nocton in a heart beat if I didnt have my 50 1.0 Noctilux. The sample I tested was sharp and focus was right on the money @F 1.1. While I admit the 50 1.0 images where a little better to my eye , in truth, it was to close to call. Out in the feild the Nocton would be great fast 50mm. And not just for the money, but a great lens period. I like the hood as well . There both big hunks of glass. IMO the Nocton focus was pleasantly smooth and aperture was solid and positive. Really nice lens. Best of luck with you choices. Gregory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted January 26, 2011 Share #14 Posted January 26, 2011 Noel, my samples of the Canon 0.95 are unacceptable from center to edge. No cropping helps. As I wrote, it might just be my bad luck. That said, I plan to get one last sample to try for the last time. At $1700 each, I can gamble against the Noctilux - I fear it is a losing effort. . Hi Pico I did not mean to say a super speed lens performed like a fast lens, I suggest using a f/1.4 for 5cm The Canon f/1.4 is peeless compared to the f/1.2 or /0.95 and dirt cheap, if you lke old signatures.. The Leica Noct /1.2 is higher contrast out to 1.5cm off axis the f/1 lower and dies at 0.9cm. They were ten-twenty years later then the Canons. The modern CV and Leica super speed lenes are 30 years later again. But a /1.4 even better still use slower shutter speed or push film. You are paying for speed not performance. Try a CV in a shop with a ruler if you like it buy it if you dont save for Leica, the new ones wont be instock anyway. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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