J yung Posted January 1, 2011 Share #1 Posted January 1, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dear All, My D-Lux 5 Lcd display turns reddish colour for a few seconds when trying to shoot under direct sunlight! :(Any users in here have this problem? Some users in other forum have this problem and report this to leica service. The only reply was nothing one can do until the new firmware update. Any suggestions? Does Lx5 have this problem too or only D-lux5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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farnz Posted January 1, 2011 Share #2 Posted January 1, 2011 Hi and welcome to the forum! I've had my DL5 sine October and I haven't noticed this but a) there hasn't been a lot of direct sunlight in London since then, and I usually use the EVF. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J yung Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted January 1, 2011 Hi and welcome to the forum! I've had my DL5 sine October and I haven't noticed this but a) there hasn't been a lot of direct sunlight in London since then, and I usually use the EVF. Pete. Thanks Pete, I've had mine since early November and never had a problem until yesterday, the first time I try to take picture under clear blue sky with bright sunlight. The Lcd turn kind of pink when the shutter pressed halfway, it last a few seconds before it clear up. I've tested it a few times and found when I turn the aperture a few click smaller ie. In A mode at Smaller than F.4 or so, the problem gone. Seems like it only happens when the aperture is wide open or close to wide open. Wondering is it the Lens, Ccd or the Firmware problem?i J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitom Posted January 1, 2011 Share #4 Posted January 1, 2011 I had not such a problem. Are the pictures you have taken ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J yung Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted January 1, 2011 I had not such a problem.Are the pictures you have taken ok? Users who experience the same problem also mentioned it happens when taking High Contrast pictures under daylight, especially in the iA mode. I love the camera and the pictures came out fine. Just kind of annoying while the Lcd turn Pink when I try to compose the shot. Interesting is I only find users have this problem on D-lux 5 but not on the Lx-5. Kind of make me think there's a major different in Firmware between the two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted January 1, 2011 Share #6 Posted January 1, 2011 Does the LCD turn pink when you're shooting into the light, or with the sun on the LCD, or both? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J yung Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted January 1, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Does the LCD turn pink when you're shooting into the light, or with the sun on the LCD, or both? Pete. In my case it happens outdoor under bright sunlight. Mostly taking landscape with half of the picture was blue sky.it's around 10 to 11am facing the the sun but not directly shooting the sun Never happens while indoor unless I'm pointing a led flast light with a 45 degree towards the lens. Which turn LCD blue. Cloudy but bright outdoor situation was never a problem. J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitom Posted January 2, 2011 Share #8 Posted January 2, 2011 In my case it happens outdoor under bright sunlight. Mostly taking landscape with half of the picture was blue sky.it's around 10 to 11am facing the the sun but not directly shooting the sunNever happens while indoor unless I'm pointing a led flast light with a 45 degree towards the lens. Which turn LCD blue. Cloudy but bright outdoor situation was never a problem. J Well, it seems that this is not a technical fault if the cam, maybe a phenomen of the electronic showing the pics on the screen? Because the pictures are well. Would be interesting to know if this happens on the EVF monitor also. MAybe you can ask at Leica customer support, they sure can give a satisfying answer to that problem. If you do, pleas poist here. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J yung Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share #9 Posted January 2, 2011 Well, it seems that this is not a technical fault if the cam, maybe a phenomen of the electronic showing the pics on the screen? Because the pictures are well. Would be interesting to know if this happens on the EVF monitor also. MAybe you can ask at Leica customer support, they sure can give a satisfying answer to that problem. If you do, pleas poist here. Thanks. Thanks and will do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 2, 2011 Share #10 Posted January 2, 2011 In my case it happens outdoor under bright sunlight. Mostly taking landscape with half of the picture was blue sky.it's around 10 to 11am facing the the sun but not directly shooting the sunNever happens while indoor unless I'm pointing a led flast light with a 45 degree towards the lens. Which turn LCD blue. All of that is expected behaviour. The technical term for this phenomenon is “smearing”; it is typical for interline-transfer CCDs, the most common type of sensor employed in compact cameras. As the actual shots are not affected one can live with it (and has to anyway). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J yung Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share #11 Posted January 2, 2011 All of that is expected behaviour. The technical term for this phenomenon is “smearing”; it is typical for interline-transfer CCDs, the most common type of sensor employed in compact cameras. As the actual shots are not affected one can live with it (and has to anyway). Thanks Michael, So you mean all CCDs compact cameras will more or less have this phenomenon. Cos this is the first compact camera I own which subject to this issue. My friends Canon S95 and Panasonic LX-3 doesn't seem to have the same issue when shooting in the same situation. Is it a problem that a Firmware update can fix? Since Leica's service had reply this issue to some complainants to wait for the new Firmware update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 2, 2011 Share #12 Posted January 2, 2011 So you mean all CCDs compact cameras will more or less have this phenomenon. Yep, only CMOS sensors don’t have this problem. (Full-frame transfer CCDs neither, but since those aren’t capable of live view the issue is moot.) My friends Canon S95 and Panasonic LX-3 doesn't seem to have the same issue when shooting in the same situation. One camera may be more prone to smearing than another, but I would be quite surprised if those models were immune from it. The sensor of the LX3 especially is quite similar to the one in the D-Lux 5. Is it a problem that a Firmware update can fix? No. Smearing happens in the sensor and there isn’t much one could do about it in internal image processing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J yung Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share #13 Posted January 2, 2011 Yep, only CMOS sensors don’t have this problem. (Full-frame transfer CCDs neither, but since those aren’t capable of live view the issue is moot.) One camera may be more prone to smearing than another, but I would be quite surprised if those models were immune from it. The sensor of the LX3 especially is quite similar to the one in the D-Lux 5. No. Smearing happens in the sensor and there isn’t much one could do about it in internal image processing. Thankyou so much Michael, very informative. I will pay Leics a visit to see what they will say about this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonsalt Posted January 2, 2011 Share #14 Posted January 2, 2011 I have not noticed such a problem. I applied a Giotto SP8300 screen protector as soon as I got the camera, perhaps that has something to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J yung Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share #15 Posted January 3, 2011 I have not noticed such a problem. I applied a Giotto SP8300 screen protector as soon as I got the camera, perhaps that has something to do with it. Hi Jjonsalt, I don't think there's anything to do with the screen protector. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J yung Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share #16 Posted January 5, 2011 Dear All, Here,s a link of a review that address the problem. http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=4528&p=4 J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted January 6, 2011 Share #17 Posted January 6, 2011 Interesting that the reviewer at your link didn't try a lens hood once he noticed the problem. Thanks for the heads-up, J. Since his test is on the LX5, I guess that answers the question about whether it's an anomaly shared by the two. Are LX5 owners also being told by Panasonic to wait for a firmware fix, as you say D-Lux 5 owners are hearing from Leica? It's an ugly effect, and I know both companies will want to figure out a way to eliminate it if possible, and soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 6, 2011 Share #18 Posted January 6, 2011 “Panasonic also reviewed the film clips we provided and their analysis was that the banding was "typical vertical flair that occurs when you aim a camera at a very bright light."” (quoting from Digital Camera Reviews) “Flair” (or rather “flare”) properly refers to an optical effect, i.e. lens flare. This “vertical flair” is actually smearing, i.e. a phenomenon caused by the sensor. As I’ve said, some cameras are more prone to smearing than others, and judging by the movie on Digital Camera Reviews, the LX5/D-Lux 5 rivals a certain Fuji I had reviewed a couple of years ago. In any case, that’s how it is; we shouldn’t expect a “fix” for this phenomenon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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