Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 20, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted January 20, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Jan I think we are all looking for that setup also and it really is not being addressed properly. Look at the Dynalite twinkles which i just bought , now imagine them as recahargeable for a max 200 full power flashes and THAT is what we all want. Small, lightweight with speed rings and reflectors. This would be a perfect battery setup , too bad there AC power. But if someone made these or something just like these at 400 watts and rechargable I would be the first guy on the list to get them. Really the only options are right now in small is a bunch of Metz 54 with quantums but that is limiting. Than we jump to Norman 200b which are nice but they need a serious update to them . Lumedyne to me is somewhat a joke they way they set them up you need a master puzzle degree to figure out the way it works. Than you jump to major systems like Profoto and Elinchron and now we are back to big , heavy and extremely expensive setups. There is a option that i have though with your existing system like Profot or Dynalite and that is a Sine battery setup like Dynalite sells which I have one and i can even run my Profoto 1200 pack off of. But it is 23 lbs and the size of a bread box. Not the most portable of setup's but very handy . I believe that is the XL 1000 from Dynalite. Â But we really need for someone to come to the portable plate here because that middle road is really missing the mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stevez4 Posted January 20, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted January 20, 2007 The light is just lovely Jamie. Just lovely. Even better with no manipulation. you've let the lens do its thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted January 20, 2007 Share #23  Posted January 20, 2007 @ Jan--thanks for the comments. The lens was the 50 1.4 ASPH shot at 1.4 (or maybe 1.6 tops. I miss EXIF )  @ Steve--I love this glass. It truly does mean less work in PS.  @ Guy--hey... I just thought about this. Elinchrom now has these very portable and inexpensive 400WS flashes that we use on the road all the time. You can pack two with speed rings (built in) and cables, etc... into a very nice lightweight carrrying case. You can get two almost for the price of one regular head.  They don't recharge at full power quite as quickly as the larger elinchroms, and the modelling light is cheaper, but hey--they're great on location. Way better than Quantums, because you can really use umbrellas / softboxes / grids etc...  They're AC of course, but then you power them with this, which looks like just what you're after, too. I've been hemming on this (gotta get a Nocti) but honestly, it's probably the best $250 we could spend, since we like to shoot receptions and such with studio flash...  Innovatronix Incorporated | Products  Not bad, eh? 5 hour recharge for about 1000 flashes!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted January 21, 2007 Share #24  Posted January 21, 2007 Guy et al -  Here are some shots of a bridge in Chicago. Rather chilly, and windy, but the light was good and strong. Fun to take a moment and go shoot.  These were with 28/2.8, JPG's, unaltered. The metering is rather impressive. In the real images, the deep shadows have lots of information.  Its kind of like having a B/W lab right at home, but without the chemicals! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/13913-throwing-everything-at-the-m8/?do=findComment&comment=147962'>More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted January 21, 2007 Share #25 Â Posted January 21, 2007 Looks like the camera is working out very well for you, Guy. Just watch the static! Â Cheers, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted January 21, 2007 Share #26 Â Posted January 21, 2007 Guy: Â Did you see the new Profoto 600B? It looks like a good, but expensive battery solution for your existing profoto lighting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted January 21, 2007 Share #27  Posted January 21, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nice stuff as usual Guy. I notice you got some fluorescent looking greens in the background on the first one. I hate mixing different types of fluorescent lights, it never fits together! Jamie, is that the 50 ASPH or the pre-asph? Looks great.  Guy, I've been looking for a small, portable rechargeable pack system. Maybe three lampheads that fit common speed rings. (Like Chimera.) A pack that works well with pocketwizard, maybe even has a receiver builtin. Easy to use with straightforward output controls. Any suggestions?   Jan:  As I just mentioned to Guy, the Profoto Aute 600 battery fits the bill for small and light.  Profoto AcuteB 600R Battery-Powered Generator Flash Pack with Receiver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 21, 2007 Share #28 Â Posted January 21, 2007 Yes I have looked at it at Samy's a couple weeks ago . 1 one head only Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinb Posted January 21, 2007 Share #29 Â Posted January 21, 2007 Geoffrey, I have to say that I really like the B&W JPEG mode on the M8 too. Works very well, as we can see from these pics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinb Posted January 21, 2007 Share #30 Â Posted January 21, 2007 Guy, Cool that you've used the camera in so many different areas! How do you think it works for framing? Shooting products with it must be hard, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 21, 2007 Share #31 Â Posted January 21, 2007 Martin yes framing can be a little bit of a issue and also paralax when you need to be straight on to something . Fortunetly product is usally tripod mounted so the paralax is easy to see and deal with. Framing i am learning that with almost all the lenses to be right on the framelines and even cuttng into them . There is always some extra image so not bad if you figure that out . The BIG plus is the LCD and I use that all the time for framing and lighting checking and even focus. I love digital for these reasons and when your working with 5 or 6 different lights you can view , review and make change . The Zoom feature alone is worth the price of the camera. My laptop and shooting tethered has long since gone away but I do want to try that again with the M8 because i hear the software is really nice for the M8 tethered. So that can be a extra benefit. Overall shooting the M8 is a little more challenging in the area' s that i work in but i enjoy that and more so enjoy these M lenses so it is worth the extra effort that may go in to it. Besides i like to control everything and the DMR and M8 are the camera's that put us back in the drivers seat and makes it fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted January 21, 2007 Share #32 Â Posted January 21, 2007 Guy's work is the most testing and the most accurate reading of how to use the camera professionally. On the street, exact composition with the M's has always been a bit of an issue. The framelines work pretty well, but not totally. Â But with the digital screen, you can look, adjust, reshoot, crop, etc. Its fantastic having that instant feedback. Composition (esp. on the edges) can be that much more controlled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 21, 2007 Share #33 Â Posted January 21, 2007 Exactly and without it the M system simple would not work for the type of stuff i have been putting it through without a LCD screen to check, you really would have to have a SLR for more precise framing and such. The M8 is great and fun but you need to use your brain too. But that is the fun part and heck most folks this is fun and should be a enjoyment to use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted January 21, 2007 Share #34  Posted January 21, 2007 i put my kevlar on for this one  do you think Live View to be a usefull feature for M8 ?    BTW: Geoffrey, I thought that second frame was really special Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted January 21, 2007 Share #35  Posted January 21, 2007 i put my kevlar on for this one  do you think that Live View might be a usefull feature for M8 ? given more 'alternate' usage, seeking greater flexibility   BTW: Geoffrey, I thought that second frame was really special  It would need a new sensor to do that; the current one would overheat if on all the time.  Talking of CCD sensors, Bill Boyle is someone I see in my work now and then - I must show him the M8!  Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted January 21, 2007 Share #36  Posted January 21, 2007 It would need a new sensor to do that; the current one would overheat if on all the time. Talking of CCD sensors, Bill Boyle is someone I see in my work now and then - I must show him the M8!  Chris  i know they do that on E330 but they seem to manage ok on Sony's R1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted January 21, 2007 Share #37  Posted January 21, 2007 and I have some doubts about heat  Characteristics of a "digital lens"  13) Does a CCD get hot or use lots of power?  CCDs do not get hot. People constantly talk about how hot CCDs get, or how much power they use, citing those as major advantages of CMOS. This is a misconception. The CCD uses the least power of any major component of the camera. The display lighting, CPU, shutter mechanism, auto focus mechanism, and memory all use much more power. Look at the Sony ICX413AQ CCD used in the Nikon D100. It operates on 15V, and draws 7mA at 15V. That's 105mW, 1/10 watt. For a device that size, you cannot feel 1/10 watt of heat. I you touched the CCD, you wouldn't be able to tell if it were on or off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Old Dog Posted January 21, 2007 Share #38  Posted January 21, 2007 and I have some doubts about heat Characteristics of a "digital lens"  13) Does a CCD get hot or use lots of power?  CCDs do not get hot. People constantly talk about how hot CCDs get, or how much power they use, citing those as major advantages of CMOS. This is a misconception. The CCD uses the least power of any major component of the camera. The display lighting, CPU, shutter mechanism, auto focus mechanism, and memory all use much more power. Look at the Sony ICX413AQ CCD used in the Nikon D100. It operates on 15V, and draws 7mA at 15V. That's 105mW, 1/10 watt. For a device that size, you cannot feel 1/10 watt of heat. I you touched the CCD, you wouldn't be able to tell if it were on or off.  However, ambiant temperature does effect the cameras low light level shooting. Digital camera exhibit better low light shots in colder temperatures. I'm not so sure that rapid fire shooting even outside in the cold wouldn't cause the chip to warm up enough to exhibit more noise. I admit, I don't "know" the answer to that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 21, 2007 Share #39 Â Posted January 21, 2007 In the past heat was a major issue with CCD and MF backs , today i think some of that has gone away but i would bet still is a issue to a certain degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 22, 2007 Share #40  Posted January 22, 2007 This one is mixing it up a little, this is a 4 second exposure . I used a Metz 54 bounced into a Stofen than dragged the shutter for 4 seconds under a blacklight on the fluid and part. 28mm cron at 5.6. I literally was in the dark under a tent Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/13913-throwing-everything-at-the-m8/?do=findComment&comment=148906'>More sharing options...
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