Guest stnami Posted January 19, 2007 Share #41 Â Posted January 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Duchamp played chess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 19, 2007 Posted January 19, 2007 Hi Guest stnami, Take a look here Would Cartier Bresson have used a digital camera today?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
nachkebia Posted January 19, 2007 Share #42 Â Posted January 19, 2007 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted January 19, 2007 Share #43 Â Posted January 19, 2007 Yes....... Duchamp did play chess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasl.se Posted January 19, 2007 Share #44 Â Posted January 19, 2007 Soviet grandmasters staged tournament chessgames vs compatriots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted January 19, 2007 Share #45 Â Posted January 19, 2007 "They spent too much time looking for the boogie man under the bed that they missed the thief in the kitchen." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruewell Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share #46 Â Posted January 20, 2007 Speculation is fun! You know, like "was the moon landing faked?" or "what should i do with my chrome Noctilux?" Â This is the whole point behind the thread, and participation is not compulsory. Â My apologies to David and Mitch if my ignorance is offensive to them, but when posting on purely speculative matters, I tend to do it humorously, thus the :)s and ;)s. Plus, if you read carefully, quite a few people made interesting contributions. Â Who saw Cristina Garcia's pictures? Mitch? Did you like them? Eery stuff, huh?(not sure I spelled that right) Â And NO, I have not tried (yet) to sell her a cat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted January 20, 2007 Share #47  Posted January 20, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...Who saw Cristina Garcia's pictures? Mitch? Did you like them? Eery stuff, huh?(not sure I spelled that right)...I did like her pictures. (It's "eerie".) —Mitch/Bangkok http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicanewbie Posted January 20, 2007 Share #48 Â Posted January 20, 2007 There's a difference between setting up for a shot and staging. Subtle, but important. Â Setting up for a shot could be waiting for the right moment, maybe even arranging things or people into a pleasing orientation to the eye. Nothing wrong with that, because you're not trying to make a statement of fact, your trying to express an idea or emotion. Â Staging a shot, for me, is like taking a giving a kid a cigarette to hold, taking a photo and saying "oh my gosh look at what they're doing to our kids". Â It depends on the ultimate purpose of the picture. Â So it doesn't bother me whether the kiss was set up or not. It expresses an idea about love in a hectic world. And even the pic about a man jumping over a puddle. I think it's a cool photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted January 20, 2007 Share #49  Posted January 20, 2007 IIRC, the HCB image of a person jumping a puddle was taken several times before he got that "decisive moment".Andy, can you document this...or is it just hearsay? —Mitch/Lubumbashi http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamilsukun Posted January 20, 2007 Share #50 Â Posted January 20, 2007 Would Cartier Bresson have used a digital camera today? Â Yes, of course. I don't he was particularly interested in the nature of the medium he was recording his images. Â Would Beethoven have used a synthesizer today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell Posted January 20, 2007 Share #51 Â Posted January 20, 2007 It is convenient to say it doesn't matter if a photo is staged or not because we can never really tell. Â But, it certainly does matter. Some photography, especially most street photography, depends for much of it's power by the implication that it is documenting something that really happened unaffected (sometimes possible, sometimes not) by the photographer. It is recording spontaneous life. Compare street photography to advertising. I think the difference matters. Â Milan Kundera has a wonderful description at the beginning of one of his novels of how the faces of various communist leaders are airbrushed out of photos when they become persona non grata. Â Of course I have nothing against staging if there is no deception. William Wegman's photos are all his relationship with his dogs, about him staging them, and their reaction to it. Â But, it matters if we don't decieve. Look at Iraq. Â Best, Â Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted January 20, 2007 Share #52  Posted January 20, 2007  But, it matters if we don't decieve. Look at Iraq.   looking just at this line as an example photojournalism is entirely different than a photograph for the sake of imagery there are journalistic standards regarding the truth  truly much of this is nonsense portraits are setup imagery for magasine culture are setup almost any commercial work is setup  it makes it sound like, for the only acceptable photograph, you should just hit the shutter and have as little effect on the image as you can, hoping for the best. should a streetshooter always without exception only attempt to publish streetshooter images, not ever do a portrait?  whats the next step, no post processing ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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