Lens flare with 35cron v(4) - Noctilux?

[mardag]

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Hi all,

 

Just want to share a picture that I liked taken with M9 and 35 cron v(4).

LEICA M9 MED SUMMICRON V4, LENS FLARE NÄR DEN ÄR SOM BÄST

I like shooting against the light when doing wedding photographty and mainly use the canon system. I´ve had the M9 now with the cron for a year and have found it quite difficult (but not impossible) to find the narrow window where the exposure for the skin in a portrait and overall contrast in the picture is right (to high exp and all contrast is gone).

 

I´m saving for the 0.95 noct and wonder what experience you have when it comes to shooting against the light. How does it handle flare contrast and so on.

How much are my difficulites connected to lens properies vs ccd properties.

I use both systems in a full manual mode.

 

Here´s another example how I intend to use the noct (with grey filter of course).

INFÖR PATRIK & JULIAS BRÖLLOP UTE PÅ VAXHOLM

Canon 5dII with 85 1.2 at 1.2

 

Best

 

Markus

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[lars_bergquist]

All right, we'll do this in English for the benefit of the bystanders.

 

No lens made by man is totally immune to stray light (in its various forms) or internal reflections. Some are indeed exceptionally robust, like the Summilux-M 1:1.4/50mm ASPH, but none are completely insensitive.

 

The picture by the window is a case in point. You have a very strong light source shining directly into the camera, which is set to accommodate the relatively weak light inside (large aperture). This situation would make me expect optical mayhem, no matter what lens I would use. I would simply have chosen another place to take the picture from.

 

I own the v.4 35mm Summicron. It is one of my favourite lenses. I have found it to behave well even under fairly difficult circumstances, such as lots of light sources in the picture. It is also somewhat less sensitive to flare than the 35mm Summilux ASPH (I have v.2), which still controls and limits it in a very satisfactory way.

 

Knowing your lenses, and their limits, is very important. It is especially important with a RF camera, where disasters can happen downstairs without us seeing them directly upstairs!

 

Some nice pictures – keep learning and you will continue to make nice pictures.

 

The old man from the Uppland Tundra

[mardag]

Hej Lars,

 

Thanks for your reply! My title should´ve been Creative lens flare with 35v(4). I´m not against flare quite the opposite a use it a lot to create effects. But I feel that the summicron V(4) is particularly sensitive when it comes to losing contrast (wide open) and tonality in the colors when pushed. Since I use the canon in the same way I of course noted the difference (This is not a vs thread I´m just curious what to expect and I like the leica alot). Will I experience a great difference with the ASPH lenses or is it mostly due to the characteristics of the sensor. I also get a lot of sensor blooming when shootin this way.

[mwilliamsphotography]

No two flare situations are going to be the same. It totally depends on the degree of tonal spread from the properly exposed foreground and the source of back light.

 

Some lenses are a bit better than others at suppressing flare, but under extreme conditions all lenses will flare.

 

Since the Noctilux lenses tend to be a bit flatter contrast, and are designed to handle the extremes of night shooting (strong specular light sources and deep murky shadow areas), they are quite good in controlling flare.

 

With very strong backlight and harder edged foreground subjects, many of the lower light M lenses will produce fringing on the digital Ms. Not always, but often enough to warrant learning how to handle it manually in post processing to minimize the effect.

 

-Marc

[mardag]

Hi Marc, Thanks for your reply.

I read your article about wedding gear with great interest at photo.net forum.

Am I correct then that the differences I see might be due to the differences between CCD and CMOS sensors? A local dealer once told me that MFB(CCDs) handle transitions from black to dark values better than CMOS and that CMOS sensors handle transitions from highlights better better than CCDs?? Or perhaps my technique is the problem:)

 

Finally a question about the noct. Do you find a lot of use for it in your wedding photography and how difficult is it to get keepers from it.

 

 

Markus