mitchell Posted January 16, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted January 16, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have a 1280, and I'm going to start printing for a show. Is the new generation better for color work? Would it be worth the change to a 2400 or one of the new HPs (I heard that a 17 inch HP is in the works) which seem to be very good? Â Thanks, Â Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cbretteville Posted January 16, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted January 16, 2007 Don't know about the 2400, but: The colours I get from my 2100 (2200 in the US) aren't as good as the colours I get from the R800 which is one generation newer than the 2100 and two newer than your 1280. The 2400 is another generation newer than my R800. For a big sized Epson I'd considder a 2400 or a 3800 the premium choices. Both using K3 inks, but the latter having slots for photo and matte black cartridges, a major advantage when it comes to minimizing ink waste. Â - Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted January 16, 2007 Share #3 Â Posted January 16, 2007 I did the change: 1280 to 2400. The 2400 is much, much better both in B&W and color. It is especially obvious with browns, skin tones and all the shades: it print them with details and nuance when the 1280 tends to posterize. Â And it's faster and quieter too. Only problem: the price of inks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted January 16, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted January 16, 2007 ... Only problem: the price of inks. Â Pascal, I don't know if you can buy from websites over here, but I have found that atlex.com has the best ink prices -- and the fastest delivery in the US at least. Â Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eronald Posted January 16, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted January 16, 2007 The 1280 has spectacular color gamut - but the prints will fade visibly over a few months if you are unlucky. The 2400 (and 3800) etc has less colorful but more enduring prints, and are considered the small exhibtion printers of reference. You cannot sell prints from a 1280, it's cheating your clients. I don't know anything about the 1800/1400. Â Edmund Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted January 16, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted January 16, 2007 I went from a 1280 to a 2200 to a 2400. The 2400 is superior in every way. Truer colors; much better B&W if that's at all of interest, faster and quieter. I'd get a 3800 if I had the space for it (and the $$). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted January 16, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted January 16, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Pascal, I don't know if you can buy from websites over here, but I have found that atlex.com has the best ink prices -- and the fastest delivery in the US at least. Â And the best price on the printer itself is a factory-refurbished one for $599 with free shipping and the same one-year guarantee that new printers have... Â Epson Stylus Photo R2400 - Refurbished, Overview - Product Information - Epson America, Inc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lode Posted January 16, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted January 16, 2007 I can only echo Alans post. The Epson printer profiles are very accurate. Â Lode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englander Posted January 16, 2007 Share #9 Â Posted January 16, 2007 The prints I have made with the 1280 have faded within two years and they are clearly discolored after only 3--using all Epson materials. Athough I have stayed within the Epson family in my upgrades to far more expensive printers, I think the new Canon and especially the new HP printers that combine CMYK and RGB inks have an extraordinary gamut and claim archival longevity that exceed the quality of my images. If I were buying now, I would carefully consider breaking out of the Epson hold. Â Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted January 17, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted January 17, 2007 The prints I have made with the 1280 have faded within two years and they are clearly discolored after only 3--using all Epson materials. Â For what it's worth, I have four Epson 1280 prints (on their Archival Matte paper) hanging on the wall of my office that don't appear to have faded at all since I printed them six years ago. On the other hand, I had a print made on my friend's Epson 7600 that was hanging on the wall of another office I had fade within 6 months of printing, so environmental conditions obviously affect this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eronald Posted January 17, 2007 Share #11  Posted January 17, 2007 The 1270/80/90 are very ozone sensitive. The joke is the 1270 was Wilhelm certified for zillions of years  Edmund Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drleew Posted January 17, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted January 17, 2007 I know it is a different printer, but has anyone out there used one of the newer Canon printers, such as the Pixma Pro 9000? I have heard good things about it and am curious if anyone has any experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pklein Posted January 17, 2007 Share #13 Â Posted January 17, 2007 For what it's worth, I have four Epson 1280 prints (on their Archival Matte paper) hanging on the wall of my office that don't appear to have faded at all since I printed them six years ago. On the other hand, I had a print made on my friend's Epson 7600 that was hanging on the wall of another office I had fade within 6 months of printing, so environmental conditions obviously affect this. Â Ultraviolet light does it. If the print is exposed to direct or reflected sunlight for part of the day, it will fade in months, maybe weeks. Flourescent light will do it over a longer time. I had a print in my office (flourescent light) which faded and shifted color drastically in less than a year. One in my den at home is still just as good as the day it was made (incandescent light). Put the print behind UV-absorbing glass or plastic, and it lasts. Â --Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarsfield Posted January 17, 2007 Share #14  Posted January 17, 2007 I have spent the last month researching the best replacement for my 1280/R800 and am down to 3 printers in the price range that I choose to stay within:  Canon PixmaPro 9000 (Dye based inks-will be last choice) HP B9180 (Archival inks that are rated to last longer than the new K3 inks from Epson) Canon PixmaPro 9500 (Also archival inks)  There are LOTS of reviews, fora and blogs to Google on the HP and the 9000 The 9500 is due out in March and there is only the basic Canon press release to go by but it looks the most promising of the 3.  This guy has some pretty comprehensive stuff on his site including QT movies:  Untitled Document  After 7 Epson printers, I am done with clogs, exhorbitant ink usage and non-existent as well as non-user friendly support. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eronald Posted January 17, 2007 Share #15 Â Posted January 17, 2007 After 7 Epson printers, I am done with clogs, exhorbitant ink usage and non-existent as well as non-user friendly support. Good luck. Â It's always the same people who complain about Epson clogs. I mean, some people seem to get them over and over again, making the use of Epson hell, while to the rest of us they are an occasional minor annoyance. Â I wonder whether the clogs aren't due to specific paper types that leave residue in the printer or very specific humidity cycling. Â Edmund Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted January 17, 2007 Share #16 Â Posted January 17, 2007 I had some clog with the 1290 but almost none with the 2400. Not a big problem indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. borger Posted January 17, 2007 Share #17 Â Posted January 17, 2007 After 7 Epson printers, I am done with clogs, exhorbitant ink usage and non-existent as well as non-user friendly support............. Â I can understand that ... but unfortunately most new papers (like the new Fiber Based papers) are made/ optimized with the Epson K3 inks in mind. For a lot of papers there are also only "canned" Epson profiles. So (unfortunately!) there are a lot of practical limitations when choosing a non Epson printer. I kicked my Epson 2200 out of the window after 3 years of frustration and bought the R2400 a couple of months ago, which is a MAJOR improvement in every aspect ............ only thing i regret is did not switch printers earlier ..... it would have saved me enough ink and paper to pay for the investment! Not to mention frustration with prints on anything else but matte papers. Â BTW .. i never had any clogging with 2200 or R2400! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rubidium Posted January 17, 2007 Share #18 Â Posted January 17, 2007 Does anyone have experience with any of the aftermarket bulk ink systems for an Epson. I've had the R1800 for over a year now, and while it produces excellent results for my needs, keeping up with the ink cartridges is a killer. Every time I clear a clog, or print something after an idle period of several days or more, I find that it's again time to replace a cartridge or two. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted January 17, 2007 Share #19 Â Posted January 17, 2007 I have prints from an Epson 1270 -- framed and behind glass -- that still show the original colors after more than 2 years. Air does prints no good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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