rsolomon Posted January 11, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted January 11, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) i feel like we have beat this to death on the forum...for the past year it has been an on/off hot topic. Does anyone know the latest status - i heard from a person...who heard from a rep they are looking at february.... Â i guess the bottom line is that : i have been going back and forth between ver 1.1 and 1.2, right now i have two loaded since i was exploiting the "user profiles" and had trouble in 1.1. At this point, and understanding about the m8 attention (though i would imagine the firmware for the DMR is outsourced) i am expecting some good features/and functions to come with 1.3 and not simply a fix to the warm monitor problem of 1.2. Â starting to get frustrated that DMR maint is not that important to leica. Â When the M8 had an issue the senior leadership at leica was focused. i just hope they didn't forget about my $$$$ (by the way a Digital Module-R cost more then the M8) Â Â leica : lets go already ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bono0272 Posted January 12, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted January 12, 2007 Richard, Â In the SLR market there are many other choices than Leica, which offering many more functions than the combination of R8/R9 + DMR. Â But in the RF camera market Leica was always the leader and since M8 is the first RF digital camera branded 'Leica', obviously the company must pay more attention and effort on this product. Â I don't have a M8 but a DMR. From last summer I start waiting the firmware 1.3, the most realistic rumor was the firmware to be released last December, but it was not. Now few days ago other members in this forum advised that it will arrive the coming February. Â Let's see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted January 12, 2007 Share #3  Posted January 12, 2007 I really hope they don't forget about the DMR... they need it as much as the M8. I use both and I'm very satisfied, but the DMR does need some minor improvements which they could easily include in the next 1.3 firmware:  1. Correct warm images on monitor 2. More accurate AWB (this affects the M8 also) 3. Switch off the monitor when pressing the shutter button 4. DNG+Jpeg 5. Possibly faster playback reviewing/zooming  Long live the DMR ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share #4 Â Posted January 14, 2007 i am absolutly committed to the R9/DMR, a fantastic product and engineering feat !! The money it has saved me so far is unbeleivable ( i am not going to the gym anymore since my workout is carry this kit) Â Almoost EVERYTHING i am looking for can be done via firmware so i am not looking beyond the capabilities, i am concerned that leica may not be as committed as i am . Inaddtion to those items mentioned i would like to see the higher iso's have a bit less noise, and allow for a "push to 3200". Â From a hardware perspective the only thing i want is a better battery, but i guess i could buy a spare, i find the battery has short life for a full day of shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted January 14, 2007 Share #5  Posted January 14, 2007 Richard  I agree with all your comments.............fantastic combination and a nice selection of cracking lenses. I just hope that Leica do not forget us DMR owners just because we don't make as much noise as the M8 boys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bono0272 Posted January 15, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted January 15, 2007 Please allow me to ask something away from the topic: Â Why do I always find that the color saturation from a film is higher than what I get from the DMR? Â I am always taking RAW by the DMR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilliamsphotography Posted January 15, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted January 15, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Please allow me to ask something away from the topic:Â Why do I always find that the color saturation from a film is higher than what I get from the DMR? Â I am always taking RAW by the DMR. Â You need to set your RAW defaults for the DMR files. Get a good shot, correct it just the way you want, and set that as your default in ACR or any other RAW processing program you prefer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted January 15, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted January 15, 2007 Richard: Â It can also be a color space problem. If you are using Adobe1998, you need to convert the files to sRGB for display on the web or when being printed at a photolab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bono0272 Posted January 17, 2007 Share #9 Â Posted January 17, 2007 Richard:Â It can also be a color space problem. If you are using Adobe1998, you need to convert the files to sRGB for display on the web or when being printed at a photolab. Â Robert, Â I am using sRGB setting with my DMR, having the camera profile selected as 'R9 generic' in Capture One Pro already. Â And I have my LCD monitor calibrated by the eye-one display device, so the conversion of RAW files by C1 is from sRGB to the monitor profile. Am I doing the right thing here? Â Then after all post processing I save the final file back to the sRGB. And is this correct? Â Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWright Posted January 17, 2007 Share #10  Posted January 17, 2007 Robert, I am using sRGB setting with my DMR, having the camera profile selected as 'R9 generic' in Capture One Pro already.  And I have my LCD monitor calibrated by the eye-one display device, so the conversion of RAW files by C1 is from sRGB to the monitor profile. Am I doing the right thing here?  Then after all post processing I save the final file back to the sRGB. And is this correct?  Thanks in advance.  No, don't convert to your monitor profile, just keep everything (except your calibrated monitor) in sRGB. The purpose of the monitor calibration is to get it to match other devices (camera, printer) as closely as possible. Now a decision to use sRGB is an altogether different subject, but if you are just starting out, it's not a bad choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 23, 2007 Share #11 Â Posted January 23, 2007 starting to get frustrated that DMR maint is not that important to leica. Â Stephen Gandy has reported on one of his mailing lists that he has been informed (by a reliable source) that Leica is soon going to end support for the DMR. If true, it doesn't bode well for the prospects of the new firmware and is going to piss off an awful lot of customers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 23, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted January 23, 2007 Stephen Gandy has reported on one of his mailing lists that he has been informed (by a reliable source) that Leica is soon going to end support for the DMR. If true, it doesn't bode well for the prospects of the new firmware and is going to piss off an awful lot of customers. Â What exactly does this mean? No v1.3, or no prospect of any further firmware tweaks beyond that? I am sure that v1.3 was already "out there" being tested... Â Presumably, all DMRs have been sold now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted January 23, 2007 Share #13 Â Posted January 23, 2007 Ian, I sure hope that this is incorrect news from Gandy. Â If it is, that would be the point when I for one would give up on Leica. It is inconsistent with Leica's past business philosophy and ethic, so it would mark a substantial change in their future dealings which would worry me to the point of refusing to invest further in their products. Â I do hope that proves not to be the case and that we shall see Firmware 1.3 before too long. The DMR is an excellent product which probably saved Leica's backside (I did write something else then!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_h Posted January 23, 2007 Share #14 Â Posted January 23, 2007 To end support for the DMR would effectively end support for the R range. Â I can only imagine the response from the pro's using the DMR. You simply could not trust Leica to safeguard your interests any more. Â I realise Every digital product has a shelf life but to end DMR support before a suitable period after the introduction of it's replacement would be commercial suicide. Â If Leica were to do that then I could not see any point in replacing the DMR. Â LEICA take note....! Â regards Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 23, 2007 Share #15 Â Posted January 23, 2007 I only bought mine five months ago. Â For a company to withdraw support for a product after such a short time would be unprecedented. Â What exactly does "withdraw support" actually mean, anyway? What "support" are we expecting to get (setting aside v1.3, of course)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englander Posted January 23, 2007 Share #16 Â Posted January 23, 2007 Gandy's rumor might simply mean that an R10 is on the horizon and that DMRs per se won't continue to be supplied. If the firmware between the R10 and DMR is integrated that would actually give DMR owners a longer lease. Â Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_h Posted January 23, 2007 Share #17 Â Posted January 23, 2007 Joe wouldn't that be dependant on the sensor being the same size? Â A full frame R10 would be too far removed from the DMR. Â Regards Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 23, 2007 Share #18 Â Posted January 23, 2007 Assuming that Gandy's source is correct, it may be that Leica's relationship with Imacon has broken down to the extent that it is virtually impossible for Leica to support the DMR further in terms of further firmware updates, etc. If so, it also probably spells the end of the DMR as a product for sale (although it would not surprise me if Leica make sure they have cleared their inventory before the product is quietly dropped from the catalogue). If there is any truth in the rumour I think that Leica are going to be at a serious crossroads regarding the whole R line. In today's marketplace I think Leica have to have a digital option to keep the system viable. Unless the R10 is close to being annonced (even if delivery is a year or so away), Leica may have a serious problem to address. I hate to say it but this latest rumour fuels my ongoing suspicion that Leica, being under fairly new management, may decide that the R system no longer has a future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 23, 2007 Share #19 Â Posted January 23, 2007 What exactly does "withdraw support" actually mean, anyway? What "support" are we expecting to get (setting aside v1.3, of course)? Â I suspect it probably means just that: no further updates to the firmware and no further development of the product by Leica or Imacon. Leica are obliged under various statutory laws to provide support in the sense of warranty repairs, etc. and are usually supposed to keep spares available for a number of years into the future. The problem for DMR users is that Leica itself may not be in a position to service the DMR and could be totally reliant on Imacon for repairs, etc. If so, Leica may not be able to fulfill its obligations in a timely manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 23, 2007 Share #20 Â Posted January 23, 2007 I hate to say it but this latest rumour fuels my ongoing suspicion that Leica, being under fairly new management, may decide that the R system no longer has a future. Â Sadly, I agree with you. They have already dropped certain lenses from the catalogue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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