marknorton Posted January 8, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted January 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can it display 1.2K on top (for 1250 ISO)? Â It's a 7 segment display, like a calculator and intended to show numerics only, so the ISO would have to be displayed as 16, 32, 64, 125, 250. Personally, I think the panel should have been larger to incorporate the key SET parameters at a glance with an user selectable backlight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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larry Posted January 8, 2007 Share #22  Posted January 8, 2007 A smoother shutter-release action A quieter shutter A smaller battery charger  I don't care about an external ISO display or control, it works quite well as is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlenz Posted January 8, 2007 Share #23 Â Posted January 8, 2007 It's a 7 segment display, like a calculator and intended to show numerics only, so the ISO would have to be displayed as 16, 32, 64, 125, 250. Personally, I think the panel should have been larger to incorporate the key SET parameters at a glance with an user selectable backlight. Â Calculators can do decimal points and many letters (letters can be a bit could be a bit awkward looking). Too late to make larger but what can be done with the existing hardware? T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlenz Posted January 8, 2007 Share #24  Posted January 8, 2007 Can it display 1.2K on top (for 1250 ISO)? I would like to see the top screen alternate between ISO and frames left at about 1/second. Although I have shot <1000 pix with my M8 I have already done a bunch at unintentionally high ISO as well as wrong WB. WB can be fixed in PP whereas one is stuck with ISO. BTW, this is my main error using the Nikon D70, which does not have a dedicated ISO display either. Too easy to do. Too easy to forget last settings. May be more of a problem for non-anal types like me (fail to verify previous settings each time camera is turned on)Tom  If decimals and k cannot be displayed it may be time to go back to DIN values! My recollection is that when ISO came out it was combo of ASA and DIN but the DIN part seems to have been dropped. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 9, 2007 Share #25 Â Posted January 9, 2007 I agree with the smoother shutter. I find the third stage to operate very abruptly. I also would like an ISO dial in the form of something like an M3 film rewind dial, perhaps not so tall, with the ISO being displayed in the little LCD window, in between the battery life and shots remaining. Other than that, please fix the white balance! Nearly all my shots look wrong on the back. I was playing with the 5D and M8 tonight with a friend, and the first time he picked up the M8 and made a photo, he looked on the back and said "what's wrong with it?". Â Tom, the ISO values are the ASA values on most cameras, as you say. Truly both should be displayed, but I suspect most people never got used to the DIN values. I just seem to recall than DIN 23 = ASA 100, and have to calculate from there. DIN is a German thing (DIN means Deutsche Industrie Norm, which means German Industry Norm, or Standard). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Campbell Posted January 9, 2007 Share #26 Â Posted January 9, 2007 In the single exposure mode - shutter release down - shutter fires only - shutter release released - shutter cocks. In the c mode it should work as it does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig der 13te Posted January 9, 2007 Share #27 Â Posted January 9, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Carsten, please let me correct you: Â ISO 25 = 15 DIN ISO 50 = 18 DIN ISO 100 = 21 DIN ISO 200 = 24 DIN ISO 400 = 27 DIN Cheers Ludwig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig der 13te Posted January 9, 2007 Share #28  Posted January 9, 2007 The following table shows the correspondence between these scales:  ISO linear scale (old ASA scale) ISO log scale (old DIN scale) GOST (Soviet pre-1987) Example of film stock with this nominal speed 6 9° original Kodachrome 8 10° 10 11° 12 12° 11 16 13° 11 20 14° 16 25 15° 22 old Agfacolor, Kodachrome 25 32 16° 22 Kodak Panatomic-X 40 17° 32 Kodachrome 40 (movie) 50 18° 45 Fuji RVP (Velvia) 64 19° 45 Kodachrome 64, Ektachrome-X 80 20° 65 Ilford Commercial Ortho 100 21° 90 Kodacolor Gold, Kodak T-Max (TMX) 125 22° 90 Ilford FP4, Kodak Plus-X Pan 160 23° 130 Fuji NPS, Kodak High-Speed Ektachrome 200 24° 180 Fujicolor Superia 200 250 25° 180 320 26° 250 Kodak Tri-X Pan Professional (TXP) 400 27° 350 Kodak T-Max (TMY) 500 28° 350 640 29° 560 Polaroid 600 800 30° 700 Fuji NPZ 1000 31° 700 Ilford Delta 3200 (see text below) 1250 32° 1600 33° 1400–1440 Fujicolor 1600 2000 34° 2500 35° 3200 36° 2800–2880 old Konica 3200 4000 37° 5000 38° 6400 39° Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krabat Posted January 9, 2007 Share #29 Â Posted January 9, 2007 To continue with the wish list - an option should be added that the DNG files could be stored with 16 bit depth. Â Regards, Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted January 9, 2007 Share #30 Â Posted January 9, 2007 ..already!!???................................ or was it more fun when the camera wasn't made Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 9, 2007 Share #31 Â Posted January 9, 2007 Calculators can do decimal points and many letters (letters can be a bit could be a bit awkward looking). Too late to make larger but what can be done with the existing hardware?T Â LCD panels like this are custom made (typically in Taiwan) and have just the segments and graphical symbols you want so are not generic and the Leica one doesn't appear to include decimal points. Â Normally, each segment is addressible - separately switched on and off, but the LCD will connect to a driver chip which will determine what can be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 9, 2007 Share #32 Â Posted January 9, 2007 Hah, so 23 was wrong even I just know that the DIN numbers were a logarithmic sequence, ie. -3 would halve the ISO, and +3 would double them. No need to remember the whole table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Radda Posted January 11, 2007 Share #33  Posted January 11, 2007 To continue with the wish list - an option should be added that the DNG files could be stored with 16 bit depth. Regards, Peter. This is especially important to me since I do a lot of landscape work often under cloudy skys with reduced contrast. My histograms in this condition are narrow and exposed to the right (to reduce noise), where the current Leica compression (square root) has the least resolution. A problem can occur when you expand the histogram of a limited 8 bit dynamic range image in PS2. Having a full 16 bit file to start with reduces the chance of getting a nasty comb effect in the expanded histogram. There are missing tone values that can be seen in final prints.  I would be more than willing to sacrifice shooting speed and battery life to get this option.  George Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 11, 2007 Share #34 Â Posted January 11, 2007 Can you post an example where you can see these artifacts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted January 11, 2007 Share #35 Â Posted January 11, 2007 Please add the aperture (of the picture taken) to the exif info. The DMR has it and it is very usefull to evaluate the photo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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