sfage Posted September 3, 2010 Share #1 Posted September 3, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is 4/3rds basically gone? ... and no, I don't mean micro 4/3rds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjh Posted September 3, 2010 Share #2 Posted September 3, 2010 Is 4/3rds basically gone? No, Olympus is still actively supporting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted September 4, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted September 4, 2010 Yeah, too bad their bodies don't hold a candle to their lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted September 4, 2010 Share #4 Posted September 4, 2010 The E-3 isn’t all bad (actually it is quite good). And as entry-level DSLRs go, their lesser bodies aren’t that shabby either. Let’s see how the E-5 will turn out; it’s less than three weeks to photokina. Leica, of course, is out of this game, and they have shown no inclination to go Micro FourThirds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted September 4, 2010 Share #5 Posted September 4, 2010 Yeah, too bad their bodies don't hold a candle to their lenses. Did you arrive at that opinion through experience? Personally I find the E-600/620 a nice little SLR to use and handle, and I am pleased with the results I get. It's probably not for high ISO obsessive pixel peepers, but i'm not one of those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted September 4, 2010 Share #6 Posted September 4, 2010 Any camera system that after 7+ years cannot provide a 28mm (35mm efov.) prime lens deserves to die. Past E-3,14-35,25,50,150 owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted September 4, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted September 4, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Did you arrive at that opinion through experience? Personally I find the E-600/620 a nice little SLR to use and handle, and I am pleased with the results I get. It's probably not for high ISO obsessive pixel peepers, but i'm not one of those. Well, for starters, I am looking for a full-frame sensor. I am considering dumping 3 grand on a super high end ED glass lens. One of these days, my Digilux three will spend all of its actuations (at 50k now). So, I am looking for something along the lines of a 5d, D700 or up from that. By up, I mean the 8 grand ballpark. Olympus doesn't have a body at those levels, much less, above them. I don't care for rangefinders. I don't like them. It's a "bugaboo" of mine. If I didn't have a problem with them, I would have bought an M9. If leica made a SLR (for less than 30 grand), I would seriously consider it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted September 5, 2010 Share #8 Posted September 5, 2010 Well, for starters, I am looking for a full-frame sensor. In that case, FourThirds is clearly not for you. The size of the sensor (17.3 x 13.0 mm) is one of the defining characteristics of the FourThirds system, so you can rest assured it will never get any bigger. (I’m assuming that by “full-frame” you mean 36 x 24 mm. Of course all FourThirds bodies are “full-frame” in that their sensor is utilizing the full image size the system was designed for.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted September 5, 2010 Yeah, this is the dilemma. I'm thinking about buying some of this olympus glass (there's a good deal on it at a shop here in my city) but the more I think about it, I wont. Maybe I will just go the adapter / rom route. As I was saying earlier, I am preparing for the day when the D3 is on his last legs. If that meant spending 3 grand upon this lens to start down the road, then that would be fine. If not, that's fine too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 6, 2010 Share #10 Posted September 6, 2010 I've never been a fan of 4/3rds, micro makes a little more sense, but really why bother with a smaller sensor, and the technical limitations that go with it, when an APS-C SLR isn't any bigger? It might not be gone, but 4/3rds is about as good an idea as 110 film IMHO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted September 9, 2010 Share #11 Posted September 9, 2010 I've never been a fan of 4/3rds, micro makes a little more sense, but really why bother with a smaller sensor, and the technical limitations that go with it, when an APS-C SLR isn't any bigger? It might not be gone, but 4/3rds is about as good an idea as 110 film IMHO what about the Pentax System 10 (SLR version of 110) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted September 9, 2010 Share #12 Posted September 9, 2010 what about the Pentax System 10 (SLR version of 110) ? I had the full system when they first came out. A lovely little camera, but the limitations of 110 film was a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share #13 Posted September 9, 2010 Yeah, but like I was saying earlier, I'm sort of planning for the next move up. By "move up" I mean something equal to a big Nikon or Canon body with R lens adapters. I'm not a big rangefinder fan -for my own concentration / comfort reasons- otherwise, I would just buy an M9. I like the feel of an SLR. That's the reason I started the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted September 9, 2010 Share #14 Posted September 9, 2010 Yeah, but like I was saying earlier, I'm sort of planning for the next move up. By "move up" I mean something equal to a big Nikon or Canon body with R lens adapters. I'm not a big rangefinder fan -for my own concentration / comfort reasons- otherwise, I would just buy an M9. I like the feel of an SLR. That's the reason I started the thread. Then I guess for you 4/3 is gone. Olympus seems to be sticking with it (Panasonic isn't) as it looks like the E-5 is coming out, though no sign of any other lenses - shame, I would have liked some decent primes in the 17 to 25mm area. Some people think that 4/3 is the child of the devil some people like me get on with it fine. Don't see where this thread can go. So looks like Canikon for you..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbeyFoto Posted September 9, 2010 Share #15 Posted September 9, 2010 Is 4/3rds basically gone? ... and no, I don't mean micro 4/3rds. Hey, Digitally Canon and Nikon will run for a good number of years and I hope Leica too. Micro 4/3s has a great future. Especially if Leica really sign up to it Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugat Posted September 9, 2010 Share #16 Posted September 9, 2010 In that case, FourThirds is clearly not for you. The size of the sensor (17.3 x 13.0 mm) is one of the defining characteristics of the FourThirds system, so you can rest assured it will never get any bigger. (I’m assuming that by “full-frame” you mean 36 x 24 mm. Of course all FourThirds bodies are “full-frame” in that their sensor is utilizing the full image size the system was designed for.) Actually sensor size is not defined in the 4/3 standard , the image circle of 21.6mm is. Therefore the oversize GH1 sensor is also 4/3 (micro to be exact). Even a 22mm x22mm square sensor is possible-- to accomodate the whole projected image circle. Zuiko Digital pro glass (zooms) is amazing, arguably at Leica primes level. Very possible that with the new panasonic sensor (18Mpix) the system will be able to deliver resolution equal to that of 24mpix full frame (36x24mm) prime+body sets. (2700-2800 lph). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugat Posted September 10, 2010 Share #17 Posted September 10, 2010 I've never been a fan of 4/3rds, micro makes a little more sense, but really why bother with a smaller sensor, and the technical limitations that go with it, when an APS-C SLR isn't any bigger? It might not be gone, but 4/3rds is about as good an idea as 110 film IMHO 4/3 and its micro iteration is a great concept. The image circle (at 21,6mm half diameter of so called full frame 43,2mm) and mount specs enable construction of excellent lenses. The glass at the lower specs can be light and small, the top constructions like Zuiko 14-35 being the size of full-frame equivalents supersede them in quality. (The FF glass would have to be twice the current size to catch up.) On the assumption of sensor technology progressing at the same pace as other microelectronics, the 4/3 systems (body+glass) can easily compete with 36x24mm standard IQ wise. The latter is additionally burdened with legacy specs: relatively long flange distance/small mount diameter hampering the flow of energy. Whether 4/3 wins with the APS is another story. On the plus size is the smaller image circle (ergo--better glass for the same size), more efficient use of the pixel real estate (4:3) and common standard for mirrorless. But history knows such technology wars where the winner was inevitably marketing (eg. betacam vs VHS). The crucial will be the next 2-3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajthornbury Posted September 10, 2010 Share #18 Posted September 10, 2010 I got myself an E620 last Nov, and I love it. It is as light as my D2, handles well and the images are good. What else do you want? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgrafixstop Posted September 10, 2010 Share #19 Posted September 10, 2010 quick, the silver cross and the wooden stake and hammer please. bad concept fortunately infrequently implemented and quickly destined to join the ranks of 110 film, 1/2 frame 35mm, "the photo disc" and other futile attempts. Oh, I know, you love your digilux2 or 3 - but with a little reflection, and maybe a sherry or two, wouldn't you really love to get your money back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted September 10, 2010 Share #20 Posted September 10, 2010 quick, the silver cross and the wooden stake and hammer please.bad concept fortunately infrequently implemented and quickly destined to join the ranks of 110 film, 1/2 frame 35mm, "the photo disc" and other futile attempts. Not keen on 4/3 then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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