atufte Posted January 7, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry to post this "not so important" POLL but this function is hugely missed in the M8, (by me anyway), my Leica DMR back had this feature, and the only thing it does is allow you to view the DNG ONLY in B&W, a can't see why we should have to capture and use storage space for a useless "basic JPG" only for the B&W previews, and yes when i shoot B&W i really like to see a preview in B&W "on camera" this can't be very hard for Leica to implement in a later M8 fw update... Â Please help me with this POLL only by saying, "YES", i would like this feature in my M8, and remember, this saves you memory, and probably also "in camera processing time" because the camera can skip the processing of the JPG's...) Â Thank you all... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 7, 2007 Posted January 7, 2007 Hi atufte, Take a look here DNG B&W Preview POLL (M8). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
sean_reid Posted January 7, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted January 7, 2007 I agree but what I end up doing is to set the camera to make the smallest, lowest quality BW JPEG possible. What you're suggesting would be useful but I do like having that tiny JPEG for initial editing in Breezebrowser. Â Cheers, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asher Kelman Posted January 7, 2007 Share #3  Posted January 7, 2007 I agree but I'd like to have the option of specifying which of common films or custom B&W looks I can choose.  I was trained to see B&W from looking at a colored world. Still anything to make composing more efficient I support!  Asher  http://www.openphotographyforums.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffsm Posted January 7, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Agree here as well. I got about 330 shots on my first battery charge, a bit less than I expected. I was shooting DNG+JPG so as to have a b&w "Polaroid" to look at on the LCD from time to time. Probably would've gotten more shots with the feature you're describing. It was a bummer too, amazing sunset in the NYC area today. Had space on the card, but no juice . Time to find a second battery and never leave home w/o it! This feature makes a lot of sense to me. Â Best, --Geoff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. borger Posted January 7, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Agree ..... the jpegs are a pain deleting afterwards ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted January 7, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Leica must to provide their B&W recipe as an Capture One profile. That's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted January 7, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) YES, I agree. Currently I am using DNG+Smallest JPEG in B&W. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted January 7, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Slightly OT, but the nicest thing about using the D2 for B&W was that the EVF changed too, so that you could frame and see the shot in B&W before pressing the shutter. Â Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 7, 2007 Share #9 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Agree totally. This is one of my current nitpicks with the M8. Â Even better would be if the DNGs could be flagged so that C1 shows the DNGs as B&W by default (like the way Canon 5D 'B&W' RAWs are initially shown in B&W when you open them in the Canon DPP software). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atufte Posted January 7, 2007 Author Share #10 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Keep them coming, there more people in this POLL the bigger chance to see this "easy fix" in a future fw upgrade... Thanks Guys... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atufte Posted January 7, 2007 Author Share #11  Posted January 7, 2007 Agree totally. This is one of my current nitpicks with the M8. Even better would be if the DNGs could be flagged so that C1 shows the DNGs as B&W by default (like the way Canon 5D 'B&W' RAWs are initially shown in B&W when you open them in the Canon DPP software).  A tag/flagged DNG file is a great idea, this works the same way in all of Nikon's D line camera's, when shot in B&W raw, it open's with an appropriate B&W profile in Nikon Capture, i would love a feature in either C1 or ACR that tells the program used if the RAW was shot in B&W or color and shows the file/image the right way without any fiddling about...  So listen up Leica/PhaseOne/Adobe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Campbell Posted January 7, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted January 7, 2007 With my camera if you set dng+jpeg, then set the B&W profile it previews in B&W. If you then set dng only, it continues to preview in B&W until you go back to dng+jpeg and select another profile. Â Give it a try. Â This is undocumented but it works every time and seems to answer the question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted January 7, 2007 Share #13 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Woody, What it does for me is to show the B&W JPEG for a second and then the colour DNG. I figured out I had to switch on DNG and JPEG, reset the colour profile for the JPEG, and then switch back to DNG only to stop this. Evidently the colour setting for JPEG files is applied to the tiny JPEG saved within the DNG as an icon. Â Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Campbell Posted January 7, 2007 Share #14 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Mine stays B&W for the entire auto preview period (3 or 5 secs) and for roughly 3 secs when I manually review. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atufte Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share #15 Â Posted January 8, 2007 Mine stays B&W for the entire auto preview period (3 or 5 secs) and for roughly 3 secs when I manually review. Â Â Thanks, mine also show's a brief preview this way, but i still wish for a B&W preview that stay's B&W for as long as me and my clients want's to see it, but thanks anyway for the tip... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted January 8, 2007 Share #16 Â Posted January 8, 2007 YES Â (I think I'm the only person to follow your instructions - what an unruly bunch we are . . . oops, now I've blown it too!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted January 8, 2007 Share #17 Â Posted January 8, 2007 For the paranoid (charter member, speaking), having two files means you will get a shot if one is corrupted. On this basis, a DNG and a hi-res JPG lets you sleep better. It's just disk space and it's also easy to delete stuff after verification. Â Sound remote? I had a shoot where I shot 400 pairs of these files. One DNG did not get to the SD card. I have the JPG, however. Under these circumstances you would, of course, think that it would be a Nobel Prize winning photo -- no such luck -- tho all my other pix are. Â SD cards and disk farms are cheap compared to the critical photo that got lost. I always answer when the bride says, "Hey, Dummy .... " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted January 8, 2007 Share #18 Â Posted January 8, 2007 Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atufte Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share #19 Â Posted January 8, 2007 Nice and short answers, hehe....good, keep them coming... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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