How the d-lux 5 will be...

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can be seen here since today-very likely

[jjb]

so, it looks like a 3.8x optical zoom on this 24mm lens should produce 90mm at the zoom end. that could be a very nice add to the already great lx3 / d-lux 4.

 

the sensor size and pixels stays the same, it seems, and therefore the pixel density should remain constant too. but i heard they have some sort of new sensor technology. the formal announcement is slated for this wednesday, according to rumor.

 

looks like LCD stays the same size and res (3", 460k pixels). still no integrated viewfinder. and can't view the accessories tab yet to see if the optional viewfinder has changed.

 

camera body width is the same, but height and depth have grown a little. slightly heavier to boot. this might be OK with me, as it might mean better ergonomics than before, and the previous generation wasn't a true shirt-pocket size camera anyway.

 

bring on the d-lux5!

[jjb]

ah, i just noticed in their description that panny will offer "optional OVF/EVF."

 

need to learn more about this new EVF!

[Riley]

LX-5 will be in white too

Panasonic DMC-LX5W Support and Service Information

 

the difference in nomenclature is as usual, suffix of K or W

 

 

DMC-LX5W

 

New! 10.1 Megapixel Digital Camera

•F2.0 Leica DC Summicron Lens

For all camera user who loves photography and pursuing image quality

•1/1.63" High Sensitivity 10 megapixel CCD with evolved sensor technology

Realized industry top level image quality in compact digital camera

•Creative photography

My color mode, Manual exposure even in movie mode.

•HD Movie Recording - AVCHD Lite

Features high quality movie in AVCHD Lite with Dolby Digital Creator and SD Link compatibility

•White

[h00ligan]

It will be... completely underwhelming.

[Ecaton]

Not impressive. Pana tries to keep its small sensor market share with this one.

Seems we are at a level where technology improves marginally at best. Times to skip 2-3 generations of new camera releases.

Wake me up when a veritable Digilux 2 successor, RF alike, with improved mft sensor and Pana GF1 body size and weight is launched:)

I would pay USD 3000 for a new, modernised Digilux 2, same brilliant lens (28-90mm, f2.0-2.4), same form factor and UI, smaller size, improved mft sensor.

[LKeithR]

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I would pay USD 3000 for a new, modernised Digilux 2, same brilliant lens (28-90mm, f2.0-2.4), same form factor and UI, smaller size, improved mft sensor.

 

Not sure if I'd want to pay quite that much but I'd sure take a serious look at a camera that could replicate the qualities of my Digilux 2. I use it and love it but I am always fearful that it will fail on me and I won't be able to replace it. I do have a D-Lux 3 and a Panny LC-1 but I much prefer the D2. Here's hoping...

[krabat]

...Wake me up when a veritable Digilux 2 successor, RF alike, with improved mft sensor and Pana GF1 body size and weight is launched:)

I would pay USD 3000 for a new, modernised Digilux 2, same brilliant lens (28-90mm, f2.0-2.4), same form factor and UI, smaller size, improved mft sensor.

Well, less than USD 3000 also would do , nevertheless, you hit the crucial point. I am fed up with all those small toy cameras.

It is time for a REAL successor of the Digilux 2.

[prk60091]

Not impressive. Pana tries to keep its small sensor market share with this one.

Seems we are at a level where technology improves marginally at best. Times to skip 2-3 generations of new camera releases.

Wake me up when a veritable Digilux 2 successor, RF alike, with improved mft sensor and Pana GF1 body size and weight is launched:)

I would pay USD 3000 for a new, modernised Digilux 2, same brilliant lens (28-90mm, f2.0-2.4), same form factor and UI, smaller size, improved mft sensor.

 

i think the d2 successor is called the x1 or maybe the x1"zoom"

[jankap]

The Dlux-2 has a sensor of 1/1.7 and a a zoomlens from 28 mm up.

No large difference in comparison with the here observed camera, I think.

Jan

[MPJMP]

That link is dead now. A teaser, perhaps?

 

I, for one, think it is step ahead, albeit a small one. The extended zoom range and more efficient HD video compression might be enough for me to upgrade. Will have to wait for the reviews to start coming in.

 

At this point, I think we are more likely to see gradual, evolutionary steps in compact digicam design, rather than the revolutionary steps we got used to seeing every couple of years in the early 2000's.

 

And yeah, like everyone else I'm still waiting for that compact, interchangeable M-mount Leica digicam with an APS or larger sensor for less than the price of a used M8. Until then, a D-LUX4/5 will have to do.

[krabat]

i think the d2 successor is called the x1 or maybe the x1"zoom"

No, the X1 is definitively NOT the successor of the D2 - no zoom lens, long-winded, laborious manual controls, no viewfinder (and be it an electronic one), too small to give the feeling of a "real" camera.

I admit I demand a great deal of a successor, and so far I haven't seen a camera that could give me the same feeling and the same summation of properties as the D2 does.

[jjb]

well, the LX5 announcement was made official today, and there are more details.

 

price on amazon is shown as US$499. Amazon.com: Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5 10.1 MP Digital Camera with

 

there is now a panny slideshow for the LX5 at:

!

 

more images and comments on many websites such as dpreview (Panasonic officially announces DMC-LX5 premium compact: Digital Photography Review) and 43rumors Olympus and Panasonic rumors).

 

of course as everyone knows, it is important to WAIT for actual hard test results and to examine the camera IN PERSON, but, many of the early claims sound promising.

 

for example, i read things like "30% resolution gain" (presumably vs LX3?), "31% sensitivity gain," "38% saturation gain," "chromatic noise reduction via venus engine FHD," "40% faster auto-focus," "faster start-up," "new jog dial replaces joy stick," "LCD with AR coating and LED backlight," "new step-zoom can be set to 24mm, 28, 35, 70, 90mm," "1:1 setting added to lens barrel," and "new accessories like EVF and conversion lens adaptor."

 

i am eager to see what changes Leica will make for the d-lux5, which i expect they will announce in the weeks leading to photokina.

[Ecaton]

Well, less than USD 3000 also would do , nevertheless, you hit the crucial point. I am fed up with all those small toy cameras.

It is time for a REAL successor of the Digilux 2.

 

I wouldn't mind paying less either. But the brilliant lens alone is worth about 2k in my subjective rating:)

[TonySx]

Not impressive. .............

Wake me up when a veritable Digilux 2 successor, RF alike, with improved mft sensor and Pana GF1 body size and weight is launched:)

I would pay USD 3000 for a new, modernised Digilux 2, same brilliant lens (28-90mm, f2.0-2.4), same form factor and UI, smaller size, improved mft sensor.

 

In another forum I commented that I would never buy another camera without a viewfinder. Yes, the LX5 looks nice but like you, I yearn for an improved Digilux 2. Won't even consider this one. By the way, when I made my viewfinder comment, I'd just exchanged a D-Lux 4 for a V-Lux 1.

[thomasl.se]

"new step-zoom can be set to 24mm, 28, 35, 70, 90mm,"

I'd have been particularly pleased with a step zoom function on the LX3, or at the least have it remember the last used zoom setting. Would easily pay an extra $150 for a well implemented step zoom, and find it curious that there's no 35-70 intermittent step such as 50mm mentioned in this press release.

 

50 and 35 would get used the most on my LX5, and exactly in that order, so unless a mistake, no 50mm-step largely reduces the value for me, of this otherwise much welcomed function.

[rob_x2004]

It has a scrolly wheel under the thumb and an EVF. Sounds like big improvements to me. The production line on the older DLux must just about have its tongue hanging out. Obviously Panasonic think its time to let the incremental developments in hardware software firmware through.

Whats with the negative waves? Worried that when they rebadge for leica twelve months later there will be a flood of new redot disciples telling us how to suck eggs?

 

Ps ... Out of interest, which model did this creep in with?

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[jankap]

The possibility of a soft-focused background?

At 90eq mm f/4 can be expected. With a cropfactor of 5 one takes pictures with dof of f/20 then.

My Elmar 90/4 says at f/22 with a distance of 4 meters a dof from 3 to 6 meters.

Still no selective focusing.

I shall wait for the Leica version. The improvements are very interesting.

Jan

[mjh]

Out of interest, which model did this creep in with?

The aspect ratio lever? The Panasonic LX1 (D-Lux 2) introduced that, about five years ago. The LX3 (D-Lux 4) was the first in this series to use an oversized sensor so changing the aspect ratio would leave the image diagonal and thus the diagonal viewing angle unchanged (except for 1:1 I believe; that was a more recent addition anyway).

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[rob_x2004]

1:1? No they didnt. It's crept in some time after the LX1.

Maybe it crept in with the LX4 huh?